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    [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 days ago (43 children)

    It’s easier to use than Windows

    Just give GUI troubleshooting instead of CLI

    [–] Alaknar@lemm.ee 8 points 1 day ago (42 children)

    It’s easier to use than Windows

    LOL, good one!

    I especially loved the user friendliness of my distro randomly disconnecting my BT mouse and refusing to reconnect. Had to edit grub to get it back to working order.

    Or how I changed the lock screen image through settings. Now I can see it - in Settings. Only. Because if I lock my device, I still see the old one.

    Or how on Kubuntu, my previous distro, the applications' menu (the one with "File", "View", "Help", etc.) just disappeared from all apps. Spent two days trying to sort it out and ended up switching to Tuxedo OS.

    Such an easy to use OS, especially for those who've never done one bit of troubleshooting themselves!

    [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 day ago (38 children)

    Spoken like someone who hasn’t had to troubleshoot Windows

    [–] Ferus42@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    Could that be because he's had fewer issues with Windows and hasn't had a need to troubleshoot it?

    Windows 11 is a shitty version of Windows, but it's not Windows ME or Vista. It sucks because of the arbitrary CPU and TPM requirements, plus having AI forced into a user's desktop. Not to mention Microsoft is dragging its feet fixing performance issues in Explorer.

    It's still very stable on good hardware with stable drivers. Point out the actual shit parts of Windows, not lazy callbacks to the days of Windows 98.

    [–] Alaknar@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

    Could that be because he’s had fewer issues with Windows and hasn’t had a need to troubleshoot it?

    It's actually the opposite. Worked in IT for 20 years, had to troubleshoot every conceivable issue with Windows.

    Here's the difference: 90% of the time, once you've installed the OS, it's smooth sailing*. If it's not, reboot, and it will be fine. For the fringe cases, just search online to find help.

    This last bit is what kills Linux as "user-friendly OS" - you have one distro, but solutions you find are for five different distros and each one looks and feels slightly differently, so things are in different places.

    EDIT:

    * I should've added: TODAY. It used to be VERY different, but these days? It's mostly "fire and forget".

    [–] Ferus42@lemm.ee 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

    I've also spent my fair share of time in IT. I can't recall any common issue with the reliability of Windows in the enterprise. Single user issues that originally appeared to be an OS problem later turned out to be caused by hardware. Usually hard disks, though I did find a bad stick of RAM once.

    The vast majority of issues I typically saw were application related, usually industry specific software. What I did come to hate was industry applications written to run on the Java Runtime environment. Especially when a user needed several different apps which were not all compatible with a common JRE version. There's DLL hell, dependency hell, and then there's JRE hell.

    [–] Alaknar@lemm.ee 1 points 22 hours ago
    [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    2080 ti and 128gb of ram - it is definitely not stable and unlike Linux isn’t ready out of the box

    [–] Ferus42@lemm.ee 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

    So you can afford 128GB of ram, a motherboard that can support that, a processor that can address that... and you're running a 2080ti?

    It's such an odd configuration I wouldn't be surprised if the Nvidia driver were causing the issue. Contrary to the concept of a "unified driver," the code for your GPU probably hasn't been touched by nvidia in a while. Either that, or maybe you've got all that hardware, but you're running Windows 8 or something else odd.

    [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

    W10/11

    And yes the gpu needs an upgrade, but I don’t have a server in need of it yet so it stays in my personal computer

    And on Linux it handles everything I need

    [–] Ferus42@lemm.ee 1 points 21 hours ago

    I am not going to troubleshoot this via Lemmy, but it does sound interesting. The fact that you specifically mention the combination of your GPU plus the 128GB of RAM still suggests to me that it's a hardware or driver issue.

    Windows has supported 128GB of RAM since Windows XP x64 Edition.

    [–] Alaknar@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    You seem to be confused. We're talking about an "OS for the masses". What you're talking about is so far beyond the "high end for the top tier enthusiasts" that it's not even funny.

    [–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

    It seems like a weird middle-ground that might be used in a weird 5 year old server. Probably not great for gaming. But I too had stability issues with all of my windows installations. (1.5 laptops, a prebuilt and later the machine I use now which I started using with windows) All of them had regular BSODs (though the laptops were a little older and might not always have been that way) and one pc even broke the Windows Bootloader so that I couldn't boot it anymore.

    [–] Alaknar@lemm.ee 1 points 56 minutes ago (1 children)

    Out of curiosity - were you using any "debloaters" or other scripts/apps that were supposed to "fix" or "speed up" Windows?

    [–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 1 points 29 minutes ago (1 children)

    Nope, I wasn't really aware of such things, I bet they would have helped though. Now that I think about it the one laptop had a weird antivirus software preinstalled which caused quite a few problems too.

    [–] Alaknar@lemm.ee 1 points 14 minutes ago

    I bet they would have helped though

    No, they wouldn't. I've seen so many posts on r/techsupport and r/windows from people complaining about Search or other OS functions not working. They always claimed that they "did nothing", only afterwards it would turn out they used some of that crap software, which broke half the OS.

    laptop had a weird antivirus software preinstalled

    That could've been the reason for A LOT of problems too.

    Let me put it this way: me, my family, and my business all run essentially clean Windows + Defender. Nothing else. And by "clean" I mean: install from ISO, leave as is.

    Last time I had a BSOD was three years ago which was around 6 years since the previous one.

    Meanwhile, the Tuxedo OS that I'm running right now (and, generally, enjoy very much) just hung up completely when I put it to sleep and then awoke. As in: not even the cursor moved when I moved the mouse, had to hard reset the thing. Things like that just don't happen in the Windows world these days.

    [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    If Windows doesn’t work on that, then it’s not for the masses

    [–] Alaknar@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Sure, mate. 128 GB of RAM is clearly "for the masses". :D

    To quote the classic: "the best thing about Linux is the community. The worst thing about Linux is the community".

    [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Did you even read what I said?

    If Windows needs more than 128gb of ram then it’s not for the masses because the masses have less than that

    [–] Alaknar@lemm.ee 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

    What are you trying to argue here, mate?

    We're talking about OSes for the average user. You said that Windows with 128 GB is "not stable and not ready out of the box, unlike Linux".

    Then you said "if it doesn't work on that, then it's not for the masses".

    So what exactly is your point?

    [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
    [–] Alaknar@lemm.ee 1 points 22 hours ago

    Are you OK, buddy?

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