While most of the people here upset and rightfully so, we have got to move past the angst to actually build this place out.
We have to recreate the environment and communities we've created on on Reddit here, so that people don't feel like they're missing out being on kbin.
That way, the next time Spez goes full Elon, we already have everything in place to make the jump.
I help run r/MMA on Reddit. We aggregate news as well as bringing on MMA figures for AMAs.
We, like many other magazines here, will need a way to quickly aggregate breaking news onto our magazine, and the easiest way to do that is going to be through a bot that mirrors submissions to our subreddit.
At least for the mags that rely on breaking news, if we implement this at scale, the end user wont be missing much by migrating over here if they get all the same great breaking news.
Do we have any bot builders in the house who could take this on as a project?
We would be leveraging Reddit's own userbase at scale to better kbin, and eventually beat them in the long run. That's the biggest L we could ever deal them.
EDIT: WASN'T SURE THIS WAS GONNA BLOW UP. IVE MADE https://kbin.social/m/BotIt FOR DEVELOPMENT. IF YOU'RE INTERESTED AND CAN HELP OR JUST WANT TO FOLLOW THE PROJECT, COME ON OVER. THANKS.
I much prefer building up Lemmy over Kbin.
For me personally, either one, we all play in the same sandbox (for the most part).
But this particular magazine is on kbin so of course OP is interested in building up kbin.
The issue and solution are the same whether you're on kbin or lemmy.
I totally agree
I'm commenting on this kbin post from Lemmy. I also have a kbin account. We can make them all grow.
For sure! One of the many advantages of the fediverse, thankfully.
Yep. The content is the same, it's just the viewer that's different, roughly speaking. No real point to being tribal as a result, which is great.
Ah, seems I misclicked. This was in response to @kadu because I personally prefer kbin over Lemmy for a variety of reasons. I do agree we should grow both rather than devolve into tribalism.
I’m curious, could you explain why?
Edit: missed the reply button, this was meant as a question to a previous comment. See below.
It's good to have a variety of options for hosting social websites. They have different strengths and weaknesses, and appeal to different people in different ways
No preference for me. Either would be good, and both even better.
Building up either is great :) They actually share the same content since they are in the same federation.
Building up one builds up the other though? That's how the federation works
Okay, I've been trying to understand this for the last hour and I finally thought I did, but maybe not? Can someone tell me where I'm going wrong in this?
A magazine (or any type of group) can post to a federated site and it will replicate the data to all other federated sites. Kbin and all the Lemmy sites are federated so we share the same data right? It's just accessing it from a different server with a different UI.
people on lemmy can subscribe to kbin magazines and comment (like I am now, from lemmy, hi!)
and people on kbin can subscribe to lemmy communities and comment there as well
I'm also fairly certain that Mastodon users can post to kbin/lemmy by replying to the magazine/community names
Can you help me a bit with that? I have created a magazine on kbin(using kbin account of course), but I can't find it/follow it from Lemmy. I am following a few kbin magazines, but for some reason I can't find mine
it is hit-or-miss right now, I think due to servers being overloaded
I can find/subscribe to some kbin magazines from lemmy but not others
basically just try to search for the magazine from lemmy > communities > search box with the name like !magazinename@instance.url and hope for the best, hopefully things stabilize soon
burgersc's recommendation (pasting the url into the search bar) worked for me.
I tried that a few days ago and it wasn't working, but just tried again with a troublesome magazine and it worked this time!
I was a bit confused by this for a while. I'm using Lemmy as well and I was wondering where all this kbin content was coming from. It's pretty cool that there isn't a divide between the fediverse server types. So much so that for users interoperability can be accidental
Each community has a "true" version that is controlled by the hosting instance. While indeed people can access communities from other instances, those other instances may make different mod decisions, may defederate with other instances, etc.
For instance, lemmy.world users cannot access beehaw.org communities, because beehaw.org defederated lemmy.world. However, us here on kbin can access both lemmy.world communities as well as beehaw.org communities.
Basically, yeah. Whether something is a Mastodon post, or a Calckey note, or a PixelFed picture, or a PeerTube video, they're all encapsulated using the same formatting guidelines, and so every one of these platforms can share and view the same content.
And they share this content via mirroring.
So long as they're passing content back and forth, growing any one site or any platform contributes to them all.
How come?
I much prefer they build to be 100% interoperable and people just choose what they like
Glad Kbin fixed the CloudFlare issue with their federation.