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[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

We simply shouldn’t have the death penalty

[–] Sludgeyy@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's alright to put a person in jail for 90 consecutive life terms and never look back. Feel good about ourselves because if we got it wrong, we "could" look into it.

Death penalty should be used sparingly

Wife poisons her husband? No because there's never going to be 100% proof

Kid shoots up a school? Yes because you know it was them 100%

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Zero tolerance for the death penalty.

You can draw all the lines you want or come up with all the scenarios that make you feel justified doing it. My answer will always be no. I’m not trying to argue with you, I just have an uncompromising stance on this and don’t want to waste your time.

[–] Sludgeyy@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, I'm not trying to argue either

The perfect world wouldn't need a death penalty, yet we don't live in a perfect world.

To me, spending ~50k a year to keep a person behind bars is not worth it.

An 18 year old school shooter has ~60 years behind bars.

That's 3 million dollars

Do you know how many lives you can save or improve for 3 million dollars?

Thats if the cost of incarnation doesn't increase in 60 years...

Thats not counting all the interest you could earn from investing the money for 60 years...

It's millions of dollars

That school shooter is 100% guilty and will never, hopefully, get out of prison.

It's inhumane to just keep them locked in a box for 60 years

But if you want to pay millions to a private prison because "The school shooter might be innocent". Even with videos, eye witnesses, and cops arresting them with a gun.

Then okay. Doesn't make sense to me.

[–] LandedGentry@lemmy.zip 1 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)
  • A person locked away for life could always be exonerated. We have many cases of people who are given the death penalty and then executed who were later found to be innocent. That is unacceptable to me. Even if I believed that there are situations where we should have the death penalty, our inability to wield it responsibly negates that.

  • I think the moment you use cost to start deciding how we should ethically behave with something as serious as state sanctioned murder you're going down a very, very dark path.

  • everybody should have the full duration of their life to become who they’re going to be. Even the most heinous of criminals can change. Unless you don’t believe everyone is capable of change and we should treat people like they are exactly who they’re going to be and can’t redeem themselves