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A video, discovered on the cellphone of a paramedic who was found along with 14 other aid workers in a mass grave in Gaza in late March, shows that the ambulances and fire truck that they were traveling in were clearly marked and had their emergency signal lights on when Israeli troops hit them with a barrage of gunfire.

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[–] DrFistington@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

The crazy thing is that you'd think of all the people in the world, the Jews in Israel would understand the importance of compassion and giving other groups of people respect and dignity. As it turns out, the fastest way to make a Nazi is to have someone live through their atrocities.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

This is historically inaccurate. Zionism predates the holocaust by decades. It has always been a fascist ideology and zionists often collaborated with the nazis. The idea of a "pure" racist state is the common goal.

Jews who understand all of this oppose zionism.

[–] markko@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago

Early Zionists even openly acknowledged that the only way for them to escape persecution was to persecute and expel the inhabitants of Palestine.

And it doesn't change the fact that Israel and Zionists still the Holocaust as an excuse for their actions.

[–] merdaverse@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

To be fair, one should acknowledge the conditions in Europe under which Zionism was created. In a growing wave of antisemitism at the end of the 19th century, Dühring wrote in a 1881 pamphlet:

He described the "Jewish question" as an expression of an irresolvable racial antagonism, and openly advocated for the "murder and extermination" of Jews as a solution to the Jewish question.

Many scholars believe that Dühring's invention of a modern-sounding antisemitism helped persuade Theodor Herzl that Zionism was the only answer.

There was a growing fear that there could be no cultural assimilation and that Jews would continue to be persecuted, as they, in fact, were. Zionism was a proposed solution to that atmosphere of hate. It's easy with the foresight of 150 years to label it as a flawed idea.

This is not an excuse for modern day Israel's actions, and obviously the conditions for Jews in Europe are better today (since we are just scapegoating Muslims nowadays instead), it's just an understanding of how the fuck we got to this point.

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This right here! I have been astounded at this over and over. If there was ever a group that should be sensitive to the idea of genocide it should be the Israelis, but instead they have simply adopted the beliefs and behavior of their worst oppressors.

And then when anyone dares to criticize them, they go right to playing the genocidal victim of the Nazis - who they are obviously emulating!

Frankly, I don't have a lot of sympathy for their enemies either. If they could manage to gather the same power as Israel, they would happily unleash it in return, and murder every single Israeli. BOTH sides are fully, unapologetically dedicated to the genocide of the other side. Neither is worthy of support.

It's incomprehensible.

[–] shaserlark@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You shouldn’t both sides a genocide just as a rule of thumb tho

[–] barneypiccolo@lemm.ee 0 points 23 hours ago

Except when it's true.