this post was submitted on 05 Apr 2025
1282 points (98.9% liked)

politics

22749 readers
2967 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.

Links must be to the original source, not an aggregator like Google Amp, MSN, or Yahoo.

Example:

  1. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  2. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  3. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive. Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.
  4. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  5. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It's really sad how domesticated the American people have become.

Any of these 1000+ protests could have used their manpower in one day to remove everyone close to Trump.

Instead we will keep marching and holding signs while everything gets worse and our corporate leaders tell us to wave the signs higher...

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 25 points 1 day ago (3 children)

If we removed him by force with only something like 1.5% of the population on board, we'd have kicked off a civil war we could not win. Right now, it's more important to use protest as an outreach tool to get more of the population to support change.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Well the civil war wouldn't be 98.5% vs 1.5%. I reckon it would be fairly even, maybe even a bit more on the anti-Trump side, despite the fact that some people might not agree with violence. If forced to pick sides, I reckon most will stay on the same side of the political spectrum they're already on.

However

I agree that civil war should be avoided. But at the same time I recognize some amount of violence may be required in the end, to have a true "liberation day" for Americans. Trump's not stepping down as long as he's alive and free.

[–] mutual_ayed@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 day ago

No, you need to consider the National Guard and all armed forces in the US and Abroad.

IF there is a civil war it's not going to be a bunch of citizens armed with AR pattern rifles shooting at the soldiers. It would be Palintir finding the communication hubs of any resistance fighters and a drone strike at the center of it, with a platoon of Marines coming in to clean up and post security. The Army close behind to go through and secure any surrounding structures and setup a FOB to prevent further insurrection.

It will be factions of the military fighting itself, and it would be devastating. Think Gaza but across two million square miles.

[–] ijedi1234@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The Irish did pretty well against such odds.

[–] mutual_ayed@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] ijedi1234@sh.itjust.works 0 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

More than a few Brits had to depart this world to do that though, yeah?

[–] mutual_ayed@sh.itjust.works 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

A lot of Irish did too. The country is still divided, the violence that was enacted also enabled all sorts of tertiary problems as well. Running drugs to buy guns, bomb makers being poisoned by the components of the bombs. Innocent Irish families dying from bombs being set to the wrong time. Torture, maming and killing of Irish who refused to get involved.

And again, Ireland is still divided.

Don't get me wrong, British policy has killed more Irish than the IRA ever did, but it wasn't some happy fucking holidays to the coast to gun down some black and tans. It was decades of terror and oppression. Not something to be bandied about online from a keyboard because you're frustrated that Amerikkka is now showing the true nature of it's system in place.

[–] ijedi1234@sh.itjust.works 1 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

The IRA's only mistake was that they stopped planting bombs to take out the Imperialists. They were good guys fighting an evil foreign oppressor; of course things wouldn't be sunshine and rainbows all the time. It's just as justified as the Revolutionary War.

Think about it: Would you rather take some evil people with you to the Great Beyond, or would you like some evil people to suck away all your savings as you die a slow death?

[–] mutual_ayed@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

I'm pretty sure you're not Irish, you don't know anyone Irish, and you have no fucking idea what you're talking about.

The IRA has no current analogue in the US. The IRA devolved into a criminal organization that terrorized the Irish just as much as the occupying brits.

Your accelerationist language and complete lack of nuance in your take tells me that you're just looking for outrage. There are no good or bad guys. This isn't a movie.

I wish you good luck and better mental health in the future. They say vitamin D supplements can help if you're not getting enough sunshine wherever you are.

[–] ijedi1234@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

God you sound like my doctor. That dude keeps trying to extort me with prescription medication.

[–] mutual_ayed@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Ah, shitposting it is then.

Kindly keep the Irish people out of your fucking mouth when spouting accelerationist garbage please.

Seriously though, Vitamin D3 and water can help a lot. Anyone reading this, please drink water if you're feeling a bit thirsty, or tired, or angry. So, in our late stage capitalist nightmare that's ..... always?

[–] ijedi1234@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 hours ago

But I view the Irish to be true heroes, like George Washington of the Revolutionary War. Washington knew that the British had to be stopped. The IRA understood this.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not sure you understand how protests work.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

So once you garner massive support do nothing meaningful to change things, that's the right way to protest the government according to the government.

This is what I mean by domesticated

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you want a group of people to storm the halls of office and seize power by force you're talking about a coup.

In this case, the demonstration of dissatisfaction by so many people is meaningful.

That "feeling" needs to build to a cacophony that republicans just can not ignore. The whole country (aside from perhaps a few loyalists) needs to be in agreement that the republicans are not fit to govern.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world -1 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I thought a coup was when you placed loyalists in all positions of power, you control the news, and declare yourself president for life.

Huh well guess that wasn't a coup and there's no problem.

War is peace Freedom is slavery

[–] mutual_ayed@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 hours ago

Taking your most recent comments into account. You're the antithesis of your username.

[–] ABC123itsEASY@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

How the hell are you suggesting that a single group of 10,000 to 100,000 people can "use their manpower in one day to remove everyone close to Trump"?? Are you saying that the January insurrections were a good idea? The tough part you're not considering is that to preserve (what's left) of democracy we need to continue abiding by its principles as frustrating as it might sound. We need democracy intact after this is all over. One could almost infer that your comment seeks to invite violence.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world -1 points 14 hours ago

"A body remains at rest, or in motion at a constant speed in a straight line, unless it is acted upon by a force."