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No more open source.

Vendors who provide competitive services built on our community products will no longer be able to incorporate future releases, bug fixes, or security patches contributed to our products.

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[-] g5pw@feddit.it 9 points 1 year ago

Aw man… and I was just thinking about deploying Nomad in my homelab…

[-] vojel@feddit.de 4 points 1 year ago

Did you read the post from them? You are not affected.

[-] SwingingKoala@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 year ago

Not affected today, many businesses were started from home. We already know it's not possible any more to build a business using hashicorp products as they could pivot at any moment and then you'd be "competing" and in breach of license.

[-] vojel@feddit.de 2 points 1 year ago

Yes but is that affecting you businesswise, for example using terraform for proviosioning infrastructure for a customer? As far as I understand this move it affects companies like gruntwork who makes a business on top of terraform with terragrunt. Dont get me wrong, I do dislike this change also but saying „it is not open source anymore“ is just wrong. It is still open source but its usage changed for companies making a dollar here or there with technologies they dont develop.

[-] SwingingKoala@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 year ago

It is still open source but its usage changed for companies making a dollar here or there with technologies they dont develop

That's not open source.

[-] Illecors@lemmy.cafe 2 points 1 year ago

Do you have access to the source code?

[-] vojel@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It is. You mix free software and open source, their often but not always the same.

[-] SwingingKoala@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago

You have no idea what you're talking about.

https://opensource.org/osd/

  1. No Discrimination Against Persons or Groups

The license must not discriminate against any person or group of persons.

https://opensource.org/licenses/

[-] vojel@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

I see no discrimination here lol. Look up licenses and stop dreaming.

[-] SwingingKoala@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Stop shilling proprietary licenses in this community.

  1. No Discrimination Against Fields of Endeavor

The license must not restrict anyone from making use of the program in a specific field of endeavor. For example, it may not restrict the program from being used in a business, or from being used for genetic research.

Also go look up the word discrimination.

[-] ck_@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 1 year ago

That is a rather short sighted interpretation of what is happening I feel. Essentially the company is moving from FLOSS to "free as in beer", which will very likely affect the product in the long run.

[-] julianwgs@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

Not quite, it‘s only restricting competitors and so all companies and home labbers can still use it for free and contribute as in free speech.

However this can bring a lot more financial sustainability to a project. I don‘t know the specifics, but the main problem is that companies make profit of the software, but don’t invest enough money back into the product. This cannot be good for users. Open source must be financially stable.

Also right now all those competitors (and users) can create a fork and maintain it. So it is up to the community what will happen to the project.

[-] g5pw@feddit.it 5 points 1 year ago

Sure, but it’s a question of principle. I try to use and support FLOSS software if possible.

[-] vojel@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

This is your choice of course.

[-] SwingingKoala@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago

I started using terraform a few weeks ago...

[-] ck_@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 year ago

Switch over to pulumi, it's essentially the same thing

https://www.pulumi.com/

[-] SwingingKoala@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

The reason I went with terraform is really because of the demand on the job market. Oh well, if I have never done that in the past and am still doing fine 🤷

[-] ck_@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

Then you are good either way. All of the IaC tools generally revolve around the same principles, they just express them in different ways. Learning terraform is definitely not a waste, you'll be able to transfer what you learned to other tools like pulimi, CDK or what have you pretty easily.

If you were to buy into a technology for a long time project, then I'd encourage you giving the alternatives a closer look.

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