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[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 28 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

Because this is what we need to be focusing on, not environmental responsibility from large polluters.

We are continually approving oil, gas, and coal projects, yet let's focus on the contradiction of environmentalists existing in a system where their very existence causes them to emit, regardless of how careful their choices.

Don't worry about this, it's fine

It's just sitting there menacingly next to the Athabasca river.

[–] Soulg@ani.social 2 points 3 days ago

Insert the comment about how too many leftists care more about doing nothing wrong than doing anything good

[–] Clent@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 days ago

This meme has strong, "Any environmentalist that doesn't unalive themselves, isn't trying hard enough." vibes.

[–] relianceschool@slrpnk.net -4 points 5 days ago (2 children)
[–] kautau@lemmy.world 28 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (4 children)

It's more like a false dilemma, claiming we can only focus on or solve one or the other. Our largest focus should be the largest polluters as mentioned, but it's also ok to want to challenge the use of AI in messaging about social action.

[–] LibertyLizard@slrpnk.net 8 points 5 days ago (2 children)

It’s not an issue of focus, but cohesion and messaging. Focusing on internal moral purity alienates people and divides us against the larger enemy.

[–] RideAgainstTheLizard@slrpnk.net -2 points 5 days ago

You are in favour of purity of focus

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago

Is focus not rival?

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

I disagree with you, and @relianceschool@slrpnk.net - respectfully.

I'm not trying to detract from AI's issues, or insist that we can only address one issue at a time. However, if I was given $100 Million to address these issues, I'd be investing 99 millon into dealing with water, land, and mining related issues, as those can have immediate effects. Emissions are such a hard one to address, since it requires buy in from literally everyone (look how hard that was with COVID, and people were dying right there and then due to it). Regulating and reducing AI emissions seems a lower priorty to me compared to things like better O&G regulation which are likely to have larger impacts on overall emssions.

[–] kautau@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

I don’t disagree with you. I said fighting pollution should be the number one priority. That should in fact take all the money. But it’s also possible to call out a journalist or publisher or activist in their comments or social media or with an email or whatever if you want to challenge their use of AI. I never said we should spend a bunch of money on what I think is just a personal action, which is why I think it’s a false dilemma.

[–] RideAgainstTheLizard@slrpnk.net -1 points 5 days ago

How has this got anything to do with a meme community that makes memes?

Some people seem to think we can only operate as a hivemind