For me the problem with AI generated thumbnails in any environmental or scientific blog is that it makes me doubt the whole text might be a AI Hallucination and I just immediately click out.
AI images just kill all credibility for me.
this post was submitted on 09 Apr 2025
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It goes double if they're using generated infographics with garbled text. There was clearly zero proofreading, and that absolutely means the article wasn't fact checked either.
The bar is so low, it's underground, and they're still tripping over it.
Cleantechnica moment.
Big time
Because this is what we need to be focusing on, not environmental responsibility from large polluters.
We are continually approving oil, gas, and coal projects, yet let's focus on the contradiction of environmentalists existing in a system where their very existence causes them to emit, regardless of how careful their choices.
Don't worry about this, it's fine
It's just sitting there menacingly next to the Athabasca river.
Insert the comment about how too many leftists care more about doing nothing wrong than doing anything good
This meme has strong, "Any environmentalist that doesn't unalive themselves, isn't trying hard enough." vibes.
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When the environmentalism memer is being petty about the small issues instead of making the discussion about the big sectors of personal consumption like heating/power source, nutrition and mobility
And yes, AI in creative sectors bad
Looool:)) Remind me, who produces most plastic in the world? Or most CO2? Or dumps largest amount of heat in the air?
Surely, some random John Does of some nation, right?
Surely, some random John Does of some nation, right?
im not sure what youre implying with the last part, ill ignore it as long as its unclear
Remind me, who produces most plastic in the world? Or most CO2? Or dumps largest amount of heat in the air?
What a peer reviewed study across 168 countries named "Keeping the global consumption within the planetary boundaries by Peipei Tian et al. Nature magazine." found was commented in an article about it:
The richest 1% of the world’s population produces 50 times more greenhouse gasses than the 4 billion people in the bottom 50%. BUT if the world’s top 20% of consumers shifted their consumption habits, they could reduce their environmental impact by 25 to 53%. (550€/month in Europe is richest 15.2%)
(..)The study also shows that changing consumption patterns in just the food and services sectors could help bring critical planetary boundaries back within safe limits. And just last month, Hubacek co-authored a paper describing how the livestock sector is dangerously transgressing several of the planetary boundaries (..)
Its a problem with more than one scapegoat. Of course big corporations create the goods, but theres also a demand by 8 billion people for example to just highlight one
I am implying what is clear as day: discussion about pollution must be about big companies, not about whatever individual human beings emit.
And the richest 1% should not be what it is today, but that is another thing completely - why do you suddenly bring it up?
Demand by 8 billion people, you say. I walk out of my house and can't walk 50m without seeing some plastic garbage (literally: bags, packages etc.). Did those 8 billion people want it? Or need it? Or demand it?
Also who's to say the person isn't running the AI model locally off of renewable energy?
You don't have to use a centralized service, shit like ComfyUI exist
Its the training of AI that uses lots of energy, once its trained actually running it uses essentially fuck all. I can generate an image for like 0.0005kWh, it would use significantly more power to create the image myself as the PC would need to be on for much longer.
I don't mind AI generated images too much, depends a bit on context though. Background images to a low budget video which is mostly speech and just gives something to look at is something I have seen a few times and doesn't seem too bad. Probably won't be looking at them much anyway.
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Ok, here's my perspective. I hate Gen-AI (specifically and solely the generative kind), I think in nearly 100% of its use cases there are more effective and more ethical solutions. Its really sketchy to me for any artist to be using or supporting AI with/in their work. My understanding is that while training the AI does take significant server farm work (on a similar scale to like, storing the data for streaming video), the actual AI model produced is relatively small, and therefore doesn't take that much energy to run. So, good on them for doing environmental work, my hangups will entirely be on the ethical side of their AI usage.
My understanding is that while training the AI does take significant server farm work (on a similar scale to like, storing the data for streaming video), the actual AI model produced is relatively small, and therefore doesn't take that much energy to run
Yeah, you can run most models on a mildly powerful gaming computer and be able to generate images
My rig actually takes less power to Gen images than it does to run some games on Max settings
I'm with you on more ethical solutions being available, but efficient? In turns of total energy usage required to go from (often unethically acquired) training data to a manifestation of a prompt as an image, maybe.
But regarding the effort and efficiency when purely generating an image? I think not.
There is a person on Lemmy running GenAI models locally (on their own machines) using solar power, and honestly, that's totally fine by me. I'm also fine with a DM generating some art for their next hombrew game they run with a couple of friends.
Acquisition of training data and the environmental impact of data centers (not only for AI usage) are still problems to be solved, though.
Ok, I didn't say efficient, I said effective. I said AI images are less effective than manually created ones, and I stand by that. Honestly, if that guy is sourcing his data ethically, more power to him.
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Honestly, any blog claining to be informative qhile usung AI thumbnails makes me extremely wary. If they can't even find a stock photo, who's to say they did any research, or worse, just wrote the entire article with gen ai
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Can you prove that AI uses more resources to draw thumbnails than a human artist?
Stock images can be used over and over and over and over...
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Also when they’re not vegan.
As long as they're reducing their meat intake that's ok with me :) I say that as a non-vegan who has greatly reduced my meat intake
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