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I made a post about the Europeans who are being deported from Germany for being anti-genocide. https://lemmy.ml/post/28407953
A user repeated the now many times debunked lie that these victims facing deportation were "violent racist rioters". Blatant German propaganda, made up to smear opposition to the genocide in Palestine. Which Germany supplies 30% of the weapons for.
After calling them, and a few other users out for repeating the same lie, the moderators banned me.
You actually not complied to the rules oft the community. Just because on .ml everyone who doesn't fully support hamas gets labeled as Nazi and then banned for rule 1 (racism) doesn't mean you can expect to call obvious abusive bullshit on other instances and get away with it.
And just to be clear: Israel doing horrific warcrimes and need to be stopped. German weapons supplies are a disgraces 21% for the AfD are fucking bad.
We "german lemmings" are with you on that, we just don't accept your lie talk about being "pro-genocide" if we don't fully support kidnappings of civilians from the other religious group in the conflict. We are sick of idiots accusing us of being Nazis while some of us live in fear that actual Nazis beat us up when we walk out of the door because we are on the spectrum, Jews, Muslims, have long hair, got outed as communists, or even being a supporter of the fkin green party.
The rule to... not call out the German government for their complicity in genocide? I didn't find it. It must be one of those unspoken german rules.
Yes. You are racist and Fascist if you do not support armed resistance of people in a concentration camp against their oppressor.
This is "do you support the Jews in the Warsaw Ghetto fighting back against the Nazis" and if the answer is no then you go straight to the Nazi bin. You expect .ml is going to wait 30 years for people to have "always been against this" like Nazi Germany, instead of simply "being against this" in the present while a people are being exterminated.
The only reason you cannot accept this is because Germany literally makes it illegal to not be racist (support the Palestinian resistance) and nobody around you dares not being racist.
But the actual Nazis who make extremist statements such as Israel has the right to kill Palestinian civilians are the ones running Nazi Germany.
See thats exactly the flamebait.
There is a war between two religious fundamentalist parties.
One of them is clearly worse than the other, opressing them and doing horrible warcrimes.
One can be against the horrifying killing, bombing and starving of civilians by a right wing religious fundamentalist government while STILL be against the kidnappig and shooting of civilians by a religious fundamentalist organization.
You making up a false dilemma by throwing everyone who has a more complex view on things than "this one religious fundamentalist group is in the right with everything and the other one needs to be completely annihilated" Into the the Nazi bin.
This is clearly not argumentation in good faith.
Sure one side is clearly worse, but that doesn't make the other one untouchable or not to be criticized.
criticizing the scewed media in Germany, actively going on anti-israel demonstrations, demanding from your government to stop sending weapons and instead initiate tariffs on this far right warcrime nation BUT STILL not defending the shooting of civilians on a music festival or kidnapping of them, is a valid position, it may not be your position, but calling those position "pro-genocide" or "clearly Nazis/fascists" is just plainly wrong.
You can be activly fighting against genocide WHILE STILL not fighting for a radical fundamentalist religious group.
You can fight for the people, their rights, their lives while not supporting their ideology.
You making a "either you are 100% with us, or you are a facist" argument is either plain stupid or ragebait and surley neither dialectic nor materialistic.
Like fuck it is 🙄
There is an oppressive occupation of mostly defenceless civilians, not "war between two parties". Unless you consider Nazi final solution "war between two parties".
Just realise I'm arguing against someone who honestly asks "should vegans who raise their kids vegan get their kids taken away?"
And makes fun of women who are afraid of going out at night in fear of violence from men...
Guess we don't have any common ground for a good faith discussion
I guess we don't as I am finding defending nazi murderes abhorrent and drawing comparison between them and their victims, a behaviour only a total cunt would possibly engage in.
Strawman xD I am not defending the Israeli state, fkin fascists need to be stopped. But that's the thing with you guys, your world view is so narrow that you can't possibly imagine someone having a differentiated view. In your eyes anyone who disagrees with you on anything must be a supporter of the other side. You can't believe someone actually arguing about actions he believes are wrong. You promptly see red and think he only criticize you because he is an agent of your enemy.
Both can be true lol. Being oppressed AND being fundamentalist religious.
There are also oppressed parts of that party who are not as religiously fundamentalist, like the fatah. But being on the oppressed side doesn't make the hamas less religiously fundamentalist. Like fighting against the Nazis in ww2 didn't make USA less a capitalist party
Don't get your point here.