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I made a post about the Europeans who are being deported from Germany for being anti-genocide. https://lemmy.ml/post/28407953

A user repeated the now many times debunked lie that these victims facing deportation were "violent racist rioters". Blatant German propaganda, made up to smear opposition to the genocide in Palestine. Which Germany supplies 30% of the weapons for.

After calling them, and a few other users out for repeating the same lie, the moderators banned me.

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[–] Jean_le_Flambeur@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (18 children)

See thats exactly the flamebait.

There is a war between two religious fundamentalist parties.

One of them is clearly worse than the other, opressing them and doing horrible warcrimes.

One can be against the horrifying killing, bombing and starving of civilians by a right wing religious fundamentalist government while STILL be against the kidnappig and shooting of civilians by a religious fundamentalist organization.

You making up a false dilemma by throwing everyone who has a more complex view on things than "this one religious fundamentalist group is in the right with everything and the other one needs to be completely annihilated" Into the the Nazi bin.

This is clearly not argumentation in good faith.

Sure one side is clearly worse, but that doesn't make the other one untouchable or not to be criticized.

criticizing the scewed media in Germany, actively going on anti-israel demonstrations, demanding from your government to stop sending weapons and instead initiate tariffs on this far right warcrime nation BUT STILL not defending the shooting of civilians on a music festival or kidnapping of them, is a valid position, it may not be your position, but calling those position "pro-genocide" or "clearly Nazis/fascists" is just plainly wrong.

You can be activly fighting against genocide WHILE STILL not fighting for a radical fundamentalist religious group.

You can fight for the people, their rights, their lives while not supporting their ideology.

You making a "either you are 100% with us, or you are a facist" argument is either plain stupid or ragebait and surley neither dialectic nor materialistic.

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (4 children)

There is a war between two religious fundamentalist parties.

Like fuck it is 🙄

There is an oppressive occupation of mostly defenceless civilians, not "war between two parties". Unless you consider Nazi final solution "war between two parties".

[–] Jean_le_Flambeur@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Just realise I'm arguing against someone who honestly asks "should vegans who raise their kids vegan get their kids taken away?"

And makes fun of women who are afraid of going out at night in fear of violence from men...

Guess we don't have any common ground for a good faith discussion

[–] FelixCress@lemmy.world -5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Guess we don't have any common ground for a good faith discussion

I guess we don't as I am finding defending nazi murderes abhorrent and drawing comparison between them and their victims, a behaviour only a total cunt would possibly engage in.

[–] Jean_le_Flambeur@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Strawman xD I am not defending the Israeli state, fkin fascists need to be stopped. But that's the thing with you guys, your world view is so narrow that you can't possibly imagine someone having a differentiated view. In your eyes anyone who disagrees with you on anything must be a supporter of the other side. You can't believe someone actually arguing about actions he believes are wrong. You promptly see red and think he only criticize you because he is an agent of your enemy.

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