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Why is it bible-thumpers who are always so against socialised healthcare and welfare? (hexbear.net)

submitted 1 week ago by DisabledAceSocialist@hexbear.net to c/chat@hexbear.net

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It's always puzzled me and reading a thread on reddit just how has reignited that puzzlement. Someone on reddit asked people opposed to universal healthcare to explain why and the conservatives in the thread have given reasons like they don't want to wait their turn for treatment, and that people don't have an intrinsic right to live, along with the usual "WHY shOUld i PAy fOR YouR HealTHcarE?"

Christians seem to lead the charge with objections such as these. And in my experience of asking for help accessing food, Christians were the cruellest and the least likely to help.

I just don't understand how someone claims to follow Jesus but holds beliefs like this. When Jesus handed out the loaves and fishes, did he check everyone's employment and tax status first, and only feed those who were working and paying tax? When he healed the sick and disabled, did he make sure they had health insurance first and refuse to treat those who couldn't pay?

What makes these people such incredible hypocrites?

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[–] FALGSConaut@hexbear.net 34 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Thanks to Calvinism (and other factors) American "Christianity" is it's own religion that wears the mask of Christianity like a flayed skin

This is not an endorsement of Christianity but American Christians specifically fail to uphold basically every single one of Christ's teachings

[–] DisabledAceSocialist@hexbear.net 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I live in the UK and I have found British Christians to be just as unkind. They literally turned me away from the church when I asked for help accessing food.

[–] bbnh69420@hexbear.net 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Could go back to the Puritans then? Not sure if that energy had a place in the uk back in the day

[–] ChestRockwell@hexbear.net 10 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Max Weber isn't perfect, but the analysis of the calling and the way that Calvinism allays the anxiety of the believer through earthly blessings is spot on.

Thus, charity should only be exercised by the elect (i.e. rich) rather than socialized.

[–] Lemister@hexbear.net 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Reformed Christianity also has a complicated relationship with Anglicanism, the branch of Christianity originating in the Church of England. The Anglican confessions are considered Protestant, and more specifically, Reformed, and leaders of the English Reformation were influenced by Calvinist rather than Lutheran theologians. Still the Church of England retained elements of Catholicism such as bishops and vestments, unlike continental Reformed churches, and thus was sometimes called "but halfly Reformed." Beginning in the 17th century, Anglicanism broadened to the extent that Reformed theology is no longer dominant in Anglicanism.

Scotland is definitely a centre of reformed & Calvinist thought and is therefore to reason, a major influence on american hegemonic culture.