New account but I've been using burner accounts and lurking since the sub got banned. I've been seeing all the standard liberal brainworms again for the first time since reddit-logo and everytime it's an account from another federation. I was tepidly against federation at first but this has been entertaining, like the old days of pigpoop people who wandered into the sub.

I gotta imagine this will only last another week before everyone defederates us, but let's enjoy it for now.

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[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Many people who jumped on board with GG originally weren't people trying to harass women, they were people upset with all the condescension and derision they got from what were labelled "SJWs".

This is revisionist as fuck. Just like modern complaints about "woke" and "cancel culture", most of people's feeling about these things being real come from reactionaries telling them that it's omnipresent and seeing a handful of exceptional cases. GG has a recorded history of being an impressively-orchestrated 4chan (etc) op, maybe the most successful that they ever had.

[–] stillwater@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I'd say you're being more revisionist than I am. You know it was well orchestrated but you're totally missing what the methods and mechanisms to convince the "middle" were. It didn't become a movement almost literally overnight because the extremists all went mask off.

Were you even there when it grew and happened? It sounds like you missed it entirely and only know about it from after-the-fact recordings that can't possibly capture the actual contemporary phenomena as it gripped communities in front of us.

Also, the nature of the replies to my comment are more in line with how GGers responded than it isn't. Please go back and reconsider how my comment was actually about how bad behaviour fosters more bad behaviour.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I was around for it, yes, but I also read research on it because the basic nature of the movement is an illusion created by enculturation, as I already indicated

[–] stillwater@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

And that's the only thing you got out of it? The size and speed of the movement cannot simply be attributed to just a 4chan initiative.

[–] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm not saying there wasn't already a popular base for right wing aggrievement politics

[–] stillwater@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

Oh totally. It's how they ensnared more people that aren't actually all that right wing initially that concerns me.