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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by Zansacu@lemmy.world to c/warframe@dormi.zone

I haven't been to Reddit for a few days, I've also completely deleted my data and my profile from Reddit, and I don't want to return.

Are we here to stay? Are you moving back to the Warframe subreddit? Are we moving elsewhere, like the official forum, for example?

Personally, I like Lemmy although I miss being able to use GIFs and directly upload videos, so I'm happy if we decide to stay here.

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[-] o0zeroh0o@dormi.zone 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's a complete waste of time. I signed up just to complain about it. I program / integrate API's for a living. There's tonnes of websites that don't have free api access. Reddit isn't obligated to provide any API, and the fact it's taking it away isn't a good enough reason for all these mods to throw their toys out of the cot. Furthermore, it's not the mods that will suffer for their decisions because they still have access to these private subreddits, it's the users - most of whom have nothing to do with third party reddit apps or reddit apis and couldn't care less.

Users who access reddit through a third party free API app make $0 for reddit. The big one being apollo, which likely would have been costing reddit a shit tonne in server fees and upkeep. So Reddit's decision to change their API makes complete sense... Imagine if someone moved into your house, ate your food, paid no rent and then when you kicked them out people started protesting you for doing so. Whether users don't visit reddit or they visit it through a third party app - the outcome for reddit is the same. $0 - great fuck all. That's why these subreddits going private are going to do jack shit.

And to those users who think you care because you've been told you should (and because you love a good protest) ask yourself how this REALLY effects you. If you use a third party app, you'll instead have to use a slightly different looking one. And BONUS you'll be supporting the company that has actually made all those subreddits possible. I understand this is going to get downvoted to shit (if it can, idk how this stupid site works) because people THINK they care at the moment. But literally give it 2 weeks, everybody will realize the changes don't mean shit to them personally, and they'll stop giving a fuck.

My last complaint is just how shortsighted / selfish this is on the part of the people incharge here. Nobody is here for you. Nobody is here for your opinions on how reddit should run it's business. Nobody gives 2 shits about how you feel the community should come together. We care about discussing shit with a large amount of actual war frame players, and then finding that information at a later date. And by doing this protest you're removing both of those conditions, no large amount of players, no archive of knowledge. The next warframe subreddit that gains ANY traction is where 95% of players are going to go and you'll be left here with some opinions that nobody cares about.

[-] ElectroVagrant@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

And BONUS you’ll be supporting the company that has actually made all those subreddits possible.

I can somewhat see where you're coming from, but ultimately it's the people that make the subreddits/communities, like you kinda indicate towards the end.

[-] o0zeroh0o@dormi.zone 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

that doesn't mean reddit hasn't enabled these communities - they aren't mutually exclusive. Marble takes an artist to make a sculpture, but the artist still needs the marble. And quite honestly the fact that reddit was able to amass such a large general audience has enabled other, more niche subreddits to benefit from this userbase. I.e. if you're already on reddit for cute animal pics and you start playing warframe, naturally you'll be more inclined to be a part of the warframe subreddit.

People love rising against evil cooperations these days. Some rightfully, some wrongly. I think in this case the uprising is misguided, and will have very little impact. In the meantime it will only hinder the community it's supposed to serve

[-] Echohunter@dormi.zone 4 points 1 year ago

Why do you think reddit needs to be that marble? Do you remember what the internet was like before reddit, and how people found information before that?

[-] o0zeroh0o@dormi.zone 2 points 1 year ago

Yep forsure, but reddit already exists and it a great platform to host these communities.

[-] ElectroVagrant@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Well, it was, but the direction it's been taking (even prior to the current API situation) has been chipping away at that.

The push to new Reddit, despite it still lacking in some elements compared to old Reddit has been going for awhile now. Plus more recently, shortly before this API stuff, they dove right into all the crypto/NFT hype, rapidly implementing features basically nobody was asking for, while neglecting addressing longstanding issues of new Reddit (e.g. its performance, bugginess, etc.). If anything the NFT crap is even more of a slap in the face to the whole Reddit community than the API decision, as it clearly demonstrates that they can relatively rapidly make changes to Reddit, but at this point only if it helps their bottom line.

Implementing changes that benefit hosting communities is at this point more of a secondary concern compared to those that increase revenues/profits, and that's a takeaway that can be had even setting aside the API situation simply by looking at the overall direction up to that decision.

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