I must admit I mostly lurk there and never quite made the jump culturally to lemmygrad, but I do respect your opinions and the last few days are making me feel a bit insane and wanting an outside perspective. I'll explain and provide links for context
A longtime user got banned for bad behavior in live chat on hextube. That part isn't all that surprising. But then we got dueling impersonators one and two making meta posts about the ban and a notorious also-banned user he had conflicted with a long time ago (melina).
This was... mostly just annoying, clearly someone was doing a nasty bit, but mods just banned them both and the site moved on which I guess is fair enough.
Fast forward to today, and we have an account (not brand new, but not a longtime account either, only a few weeks old with limited post history) purporting to be our resident China guy (and China doomer, to some extent) from the news mega, posting a long winded story about going to xinjiang and getting 1984'd or whatever. It starts to feel like it could be a bit as it gets more and more absurd, but this user was always very serious from what I recall.
If this is a troll/psyop I guess it's a good one because this garbage is giving me a fucking headache. What do you grad'ers think is going on? Were any of these real or all impersonators (and relatedly who? melina?) Am I just too autistic to get the joke? Is this a fed psyop? what else could be going on?
Idk what's going on but the past few weeks really feel like hexbear is getting ruined for me which fucking sucks. I get some of the bits and all that and like the jokes but this all just does not feel good, and it seems like there has been an abundance of struggle sessions and fighting and its just not fun anymore.
When there was the struggle session over the Admins/mods getting rid of the dunk tank, there was a separate struggle over problematic behavior with the mods and site culture in general that has not been touched since and I really, really think that discussion needs to happen front and center, not just as an appendage to other stupid struggle sessions.
fakenews and badposting ruined hexbear
Seems like a lot of people feel that way. I personally don't mind bad posting, every once in a while there is some good comedy. Fake news did start to wear on me though because I get got every time lol. I think you can do satire and irony and it can be clever and funny! But I think there is a limit and once you see that people are getting upset you need to stop otherwise it feels like bullying
I had to block that com
idk why I haven't blocked it. Masochism, probably
I blocked both of those very quickly because it was confusing and was flooding my bear feed with shit. Which means I'm out of the loop on some stuff but it's kept Hexbear a solidly pleasant experience and spae for me.
Neither add much, but I think a bigger issue is so much conversation getting shunted into megathreads. You end up with:
Because megathreads aren't all that coherent -- there are dozens of different topics, people posting chat-style missives, etc. -- the biggest points of focused discussion wind up as the struggle session threads.
Yea, it's definitely been less fun lately, the vibe has been off for sure. We definitely need more transparency when it comes to mods/admins
This whole WTYP thing and the aftermath has just left a bad taste in my mouth. Maybe it's because I never use the tubes and didn't see what was happening there but at least with most bans you can see what the person said/did.
Yeah, I dunno this seems to be a long standing problem which sucks. Hoping it'll blow over because it seems that the userbase can't really do much about it
For real. Either this is a dumb shit posting site for socially awkward leftist nerds and shouldn't be taken super seriously, or it's a well organized community that is sorely lacking any sort of cohesive structure and bar for entry.
They need to pick one so we know how to behave.
I said this in another comment but like I enjoy a lot of the bits and humor and shitposting and that its not a super serious vibe all the time, and I like reading the very articulate analysis and learning more about geopolitics and such. I feel like it's possible to have both! It's just this particular brand of "humor" feels weird and kinda mean spirited, thats the only way I can think to describe it. Like you can see in the comments that people get upset, but then its thrown back on those people for "not taking a joke". Making an alt account to impersonate another user to make fun of them isn't fun to me, its bullying and weird
I agree there is a balance between goofy and serious that can be struck on hexbear. In fact, that's what made it so cozy. We had a great thing going until fairly recently. I'll never understand why we federated with a bunch of instances that we knew were full of wreckers and trolls. We federated once, had a huge problem, and then there was that moment where we lost the domain and it was actually pretty peaceful for a while.
People were starved for content on here so we federated again and surprise, surprise the same problems have come back. Hexbear is a ghost town when there aren't other instances to look at, but can't we be a little more discerning?
I only hopped on to hexbear because of federation, but I switched my default homepage to "all" and I notice just how boring like 95% of posts are out there lol. I have also heard that it could be user-favoritism on the part of admins, so who knows. I just want the chill vibes back damn
If its like Chapo Traphouse it was never meant to be a serious site & they didn't even care that the domain was expiring. The only serious leftist of Chapo is Matt Christman. The others come off as wealthy irony posters that don't care much about any movement or history. Maybe people should come to one of the actually serious lemmy servers that has memes as well as reading groups and history posts and contribute to them.
I don't think we model ourselves after chapo anymore basically for the reasons you stated. But yeah it has gone really downhill and it makes me glad there are certain federated instances I can see. They hold down the fort when hexbear is getting particularly out of pocket.
I put the problem back to around september-october last year. I didn't notice it till Awoo got banned but a bit of digging in the mod showed that the administration issues got markedly worse around then.
Damn I forgot that Awoo got banned, that was so weird to me because they seem to have been around forever and contribute a lot to the site. I think that timeline feels right to me overall, the past 3 or so weeks has just felt even WORSE. Bleh
awoo was unbanned and still posts to this day?
I didn't say they were still banned, I just typed my comment poorly. I think I just found it strange they were banned at all
ah ok just wanted to make sure u knew
Appreciate it! I'm sure there would be an uproar if they were still banned anyway