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Germany's domestic intelligence agency last week classified the largest opposition party, the AfD, as "confirmed right-wing extremist." This has intensified debates over whether or not to ban the party.

On Friday, the Alternative for Germany (AfD) was classified as "confirmed right-wing extremist" by Germany's domestic intelligence agency, the Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution (BfV).

Now, there has been a first fallout: two AfD politicians and parliamentarians are not allowed to accompany Hesse's Minister for European affairs, Manfred Pentz, on a trip to Serbia and Croatia. Pentz explained that he could not expect international partners "to sit down at the same table with representatives of a party that has been confirmed as right-wing extremist."

Further measures also threaten the radical right-wing party: several federal states want to examine whether being a civil servant, including judges, police officers, teachers, or soldiers, is still compatible with being a member of the AfD.

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[–] miridius@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)
[–] CBYX@feddit.org 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] miridius@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah but he's on Lemmy and engaging in discussion so there's potentially hope

[–] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Who gets to decide who is a fascist and therefore doesn't deserve to participate in democracy? What is the criteria for not deserving a voice? How do you define fascist? Maybe I'm cynical, but if you can eliminate popular political opposition by branding them as something, that's a lot of motivation to brand them.

[–] miridius@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I'm not defining anything. Fascism is an already well defined term with very clear criteria, such as being opposed to democracy and replacing it with an authoratarian, one-party state. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fascism

In Germany there is a special, independent court, at a similar level to the US supreme court but without the ability for parties to appoint the judges like they can in the US, that reveiws hard evidence and determines whether a political party can be proven to be actively trying to break the constitution (including the part that makes Germany a democracy, for example). So it's not left up to someone's opinion, nor can one party simply label another as fascist to ban them (like Hitler did)

[–] OccamsRazer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That only applies if you are the objective truth. If you are wrong, then it's just another tool for bigotry, an excuse to ignore other opinions.

[–] miridius@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

That is why it has to first be proven in a court of law