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[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 86 points 3 weeks ago (41 children)

We should end tipping culture. Wages should never be optional, and anyone working full time should be paid by their employer a living wage as described by FDR when the minimum wage was created.

Until we end tipping culture, tip your servers. You're not some edgy social justice warrior by quoting Mr. Pink and acting like keeping your two dollars is somehow helping. You're just an asshole.

[–] asret@lemmy.zip 17 points 3 weeks ago (18 children)

The single best thing people can do to end tipping culture is to just stop tipping.

Vote for social safety nets or make donations to care for those who will be harmed by this.

But right now it's people like you that are perpetuating tipping culture.

And yes, I am an asshole - but it's not solely because of my stance on tipping.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world -2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (6 children)

Bullshit, and that's a dangerously naive perspective. If everyone stopped tipping tomorrow, the only people that would be hurting are the people who serve.

All labor regulations exist because there will always be someone desperate enough to do anything for a paycheck. Child laborers. Prostututes. Dallas Cowboys. People will do anything for money, and the only way to prevent exploitation is with regulation. The "free market" will turn your bones into paste before it provides a living wage to laborers.

Capitalism is an unbalanced power dynamic that relies on an excess of desperation. If people didn't need to sell their time, they'd never sell it for less than it is worth to employers. So if everyone agreed to just stop tipping, service would get much worse, and servers would be working for $2.10 an hour plus kitchen scraps.

At least we agree on uour last point.

[–] OneOrTheOtherDontAskMe@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

That's not. How. Tipped. Wages. Work.

Why do people insist that you get paid 2.10/hr? That's 2.10/hr + Tips IF AND ONLY IF that wage equals more than minimum wage. That's how it's always been.

If minimum wage is 7.25 (in a lot of states, it still is), then they are paid 7.25x40 OR 2.10x40+tips, whichever of those two numbers is higher. They CANNOT LEGALLY PAY YOU less than minimum wage.

So when people say "If you stopped tipping today, all that would be hurt is the tipped workers" I'm less inclined to believe them if they also parrot absolutely false information without a second thought.

But I do agree with you, tipped wage jobs suck, and the tips seem to be the only benefit. So, let's ensure they get a proper wage from their employer, stop tipping, and if service sucks until things are figured out, I guess I'm eating at home or eating shitty-service burgers because I'd rather the system get un-fucked than continue to engage in that system.

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world -1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You've never worked a tipped job, have you? Estimate the percentage of employers who pay minimum wage if tips are too low. Throw out any number.

[–] OneOrTheOtherDontAskMe@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

"You've never worked a tipped job have you?"

Proceeds to describe an illegal situation

[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world -1 points 3 weeks ago

Wow, you've never worked a job before, huh?

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