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Away from Beijing's lofty rhetoric about defending Palestinians, Chinese firms are helping to sustain illegal settlements.

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[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago (33 children)

I am not here to say I know better than the CPC leadership, rather that it looks pretty bad to some of those same nations you claim they are trying not to alienate. They simply have no choice but to choose the lesser evil in this case. (not calling the CPC actually evil just a turn of phrase).

[–] Joncash2@lemmy.ml -3 points 2 months ago (32 children)

Well, neutral means neutral. Sadly, we seem to have lost an understanding of the word in this devisive world. Let me try to use two different conflicts to explain what I mean. Hopefully one of them you'll be less emotional about one or the other to let you see the neutrality.

The first one is obviously the Russian Ukraine war. China will not sell to Russia anything it wouldn't be willing to sell to Ukraine. Regardless of the friendship talks with Russia, China maintains it's neutrality and continues to supply Ukraine with drones and guidance systems. They even prefer them to US switchblades.

People argue that Myanmar is a Chinese puppet. However, China has been supplying the revolutionaries with weapons as much as the Myanmar regime. It's not China's place to decide which government the people of Myanmar choose. So regardless of the global backlash China gets for not stepping in, China's response has always been step in for whom? China is no one's opponent.

China has been working towards a completely neutral world. They can't just abandon it because some feel the Gaza conflict is a more worthy cause than all the other ones. Neutral is neutral, good or bad.

[–] woodenghost@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

They aren't neutral, they send 6000 workers. Did they send the same to the Palestinians? Oh right, they couldn't afford it.

I know the meaning of neutral quite well. Neutral means "I work for the one with the most money". Neutral means complicit. The examples you give are damming in their own right. Reads like a list of war profitieering. I defend China all the time and I'm all for critical support, but seriously, read back to yourself what you just wrote and pretend it's Switzerland in the second world war selling weapons to the Nazis and the allies, because they care so much about being "neutral". They aren't neutral about their bank accounts.

China has been working towards a completely neutral world. They can't just abandon it because some feel the Gaza conflict is a more worthy cause than all the other ones. Neutral is neutral, good or bad.

Read Lenin. Capitalist countries aren't "neutral" they work together to crush us. We have to work together too. International solidarity is at the heart of Marxist-Leninism. Your ideology is counter-revolutionary. I'm not arguing, I'm teaching. Please self crit.

[–] zedcell@lemmygrad.ml 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

There is a case of wipe your own ass first, western nations are infinitely more complicit in this shit than China is. At the end of the day removed about China generates consent internally in the imperial core to never normalise relationships and to keep pressing toward cold war shit.

[–] woodenghost@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago

I know and I agree with that. But we are among us, right? We already support China, so we don't have to go so far in our critical support, as to support complicity in zionist colonialism. That can only come from a privileged perspective, of people who aren't being occupied right now.

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