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Sharing a video of the building while still aflame, Brad Gordon wrote: "If you don't understand why Black Americans are celebrating the symbolic dismantling of this monument to bondage and generational oppression — well, today, we simply don't care."

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[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 19 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

https://www.monticello.org/

This one is still around.

Personally, I think we should preserve history, good and bad.

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 56 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yea I like preserving history too. I don’t like people trying to re-write history and glorify slave holders. Unfortunately, the south can’t seem to manage one without the other, so this is a good thing. I say that as someone with a deep appreciation for American architecture.

[–] Aviandelight@mander.xyz 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I agree. A small part of me was sad to hear of the loss of the architecture but I'm also happy for the people who see this as a celebration. There are things in this world that should not last forever.

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

If only the corrupt power, hate, and treason it represents could be burnt down as easily.

[–] inlandempire@jlai.lu 19 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (3 children)

I think buildings shouldn't all become museums, but rather repurposed depending on the needs of the living population. For example there's an old slaughterhouse in Toulouse, France, that was renovated into a modern art hall. Bordeaux, France has an old submarine base that became an immersive exhibition center.

In my opinion buildings aren't monoliths and should be used by the living, the dead who occupied them have no say in what they become

[–] nulluser@lemmy.world 26 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

However, in this case, a resort for rich, presumably predominantly white , people, probably doesn't meet your criteria for "needs of the living population." It certainly doesn't meet mine.

[–] inlandempire@jlai.lu 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

What I mean is the population that's living in wherever region of the world this is, get to decide whatever they want to do with this, we shouldn't keep or preserve an old building "as is"just because it has history, history is for books, buildings are for the material needs of the people in the present

Edit: I think I wrote this comment poorly so here's a better explanation to how I feel - I dont care about a building history, if this one burns and is replaced by a playground, it's a much better use than maintaining this old house just because its a testament of the past, especially considering its context. People hung up on the past can take a picture of it, or make a small sized replica to have in a museum.

[–] Deconceptualist@lemm.ee 6 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

But... Museums do serve a purpose for the living population. If they didn't invite visitors, then it would be a storehouse.

[–] inlandempire@jlai.lu 4 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

They do, but again, not all buildings should be a museum

You can recreate a miniature version of this kind of architecture and exhibit it somewhere else, and use the available land for something else

[–] Deconceptualist@lemm.ee 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] inlandempire@jlai.lu 1 points 2 weeks ago
[–] Zos_Kia@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 3 weeks ago

The submarine base thing is amazing, I've been to most of their shows for the past couple years, and my son loves them.

Basically it's a pair of rectangular warehouses, with a rectangular basin in each. You're in the dark with 360 projection on the walls, which reflects very nicely in the water of the basins, and some background music. There was one on space exploration, one on ancient Egypt etc...

Once when our son was on vacation we went to see the Klimt one after smoking fat joints it was fucking bomb.