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Putin's fault for not allowing a Nazi regime on Russia's borders which would have been built up military for several more years then used to attack Russia after getting it into NATO and used as a potential springboard for an under 5 minutes nuclear decapitating strike on Moscow or something else equally deranged?
Putin was between a rock and a hard place, the objectively correct thing would have been to invade and subdue Ukraine in 2014 after the coup, to roll in and murder all the Nazis and dismantle their military but Russia foolishly got played into diplomacy stalling. Besides that objectively if Russia had done that in that year the sanctions against Russia at that time would have done far more damage, possibly would have destroyed Russia because at that time they hadn't had years of time to take steps to prepare and insulate themselves from the shock and pain.
It's NATO's fault. It's the Euro loser vassals' fault, it is the fault of the US. Russia really didn't have any good moves to make and every year it waited meant more Russians who would die in the fight against an increasingly more well armed and more well trained by the month military.
Tbf the russian army was not ready for such a thing in 2014. Likewise the russian economy was not resilient against sanctions by then.
Unfortunately i think this is true. As much as we all like to say that Russia should have gone all the way in 2014 i think the material basis just wasn't there yet. Russia has come a very long way since 2014, economically but also militarily, and this should be acknowledged. Arguably they were not even fully ready in 2022, but they literally could not wait any longer, even a few more weeks might have been too late and the Donbass could have been overrun by Nazis and there would have been large scale massacres and an exodus of millions of civilians fleeing to Russia. Russia waited until the very last possible moment. They had to sort out their military issues on the fly, and it's actually quite impressive what they managed to achieve while fighting all of NATO in a proxy war.
Exactly. Russia had only bad choices. They tried to navigate them as best they could. With the benefit of hindsight it's easy to see that the west was playing them all along with the Minsk agreements and such but even if they'd had known that making the move was incredibly dangerous and the more time spent preparing the better.
Russia's hand was quite literally forced. Either stand up now at the last moment or be trod on for the next decade or more. Either way NATO would have won and that's what people saying Putin made this worse don't understand: the chessboard was already fixed. What Russia has pulled off instead we must be aware of is nothing short of a humiliation of NATO and the west so dire that they've nearly escalated to all out war against Russia and only Russian nukes prevent that. They have without intending to given hope to the global south, to anti-imperialist forces, to everyone who resists US/EU/NATO hegemony and that is worth more than a few more racist, reactionary Euro-nazi-lover nations officially joining NATO instead of maintaining a tactical neutrality.
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