I sometimes think of this when leftists, particularly tankies, attack (presumably all) non-far-right non-leftists for dithering, or allegedly dithering, on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict;

but yeah, Joe Biden was/is bad for supporting Israel. Ditto Harris, Bill Maher, and Fetterman.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Whataboutism

[–] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I suppose some of it, yes; but still, maybe tankies shouldn't generalize too much.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

You say, generalising

[–] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, I suppose.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

And just to be clear, we're not attacking them for "dithering" on the Palestine genocide (not "conflict", genocide); we're attacking them for actively and consistently supporting the genocide. The idea that they're just "dithering" is a lie liberals tell themselves so they can keep supporting genocidal fascists without feeling bad about themselves.

[–] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

So according to you, there are no non-leftists who oppose the genocide of Palestinians.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

You know somebody has completely run out of arguments when they start doing the "So according to you , [something that in no way resembles anything say said]" thing.

[–] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'll take that as a "Yes, no non-leftists oppose the genocide of Palestinians."

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

OK. I can't stop you from ignoring what I said and making up your own unrelated statement in your imagination.

[–] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I'll put it in question form.

Do you believe that there are no non-leftists who oppose the genocide of Palestinians?

Do you believe that there are liberals who oppose the genocide of Palestinians?

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What is prompting you to ask me these questions? Because it seems like you're just trying to derail. I could start asking you completely unrelated questions as well, but it would just be wasting time.

(Incidentally, my answers are no and yes, respectively, but I don't intend to discuss further on this unrelated tangent without justification.)

[–] DMCMNFIBFFF@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

What is prompting you to ask me these questions? Because it seems like you’re just trying to derail.

I'm trying to understand why you replied with what you replied.

I could start asking you completely unrelated questions as well, but it would just be wasting time.

Ask away.

Incidentally, my answers are no and yes, respectively.

Thank you for answering the questions.

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