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[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Chris Smalls was able to achieve a great stepping stone when he was able to make the Amazon Labor Union (ALU) in Staten Island by bringing people from all walks of life and not cherry-picking certain groups and excluding them from the working-class movement.

Sorry, I wasn't aware that one of the "walks of life" Chris Small brought people in from was the fucking KKK. For that matter, I don't recall the Black Panthers befriending the KKK either! Huh, how about that!

Fucking brainworms.

[–] jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world -4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Chris Small brought people in from was the fucking KKK.

I did not say Chris Smalls brought the KKK and other groups to ALU; I said that he brought the working-class people together on what they agreed on so as to build the Amazon Labor Union.

He did not start the movement by excluding certain groups, gangs, movements, organizations, or political leanings.

great stepping stone

I included Chris Smalls as an example of what can be done when we focus on bringing people together instead of focusing on excluding certain groups and political leanings when it comes to building a working-class movement.

I was not able to find when the Black Panther Party worked with groups associated with the KKK, but they did try to bring white organizations into their working-class movement.

One was the Young Patriot Organization (YPO), which was based in Hillbilly Harlem, an uptown neighborhood of Chicago populated by displaced white southerners. Many YPO members were racist, and they flaunted controversial symbols associated with southern pride, such as the Confederate flag. But like blacks and Latinos, the white Young Patriots and their families experienced discrimination in Chicago. In their case, it was because they were poor and from the South.^[[1] https://archive.is/CBXnU]

Here is a short video on the Rainbow Coalition of the Black Panther Party:

From North to South: Chairman Fred Hampton and the original Rainbow Coalition [09:37 | MAR 25 2021 | Reckon] https://lemmy.world/post/30176761

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

He did not start the movement by excluding certain groups, gangs, movements, organizations, or political leanings.

Pretty sure he never had any intention of working with the KKK. Pretty sure that if the KKK came up to him and told him they wanted to join his movement, he'd tell them to fuck off, the same way virtually anyone would.

Fucking brainworms, stg.

I was not able to find when the Black Panther Party worked with groups associated with the KKK

You weren't, huh? Wow, who woulda guessed?

but they did try to bring white organizations into their working-class movement.

They were willing to work with them, but they did not change their positions to accommodate them. They did not sell out their own members or members of other minority groups in order to appeal to them.

[–] jimmydoreisalefty@lemmy.world -4 points 2 weeks ago

Pretty sure he never had any intention of working with the KKK. Pretty sure that if the KKK came up to him and told him they wanted to join his movement, he’d tell them to fuck off, the same way virtually anyone would.

You are adding your own opinion and bias when you say this about excluding and cherry picking; we don't know if he would reject any groups when they have common interests that would help the working class.

You weren’t, huh? Wow, who woulda guessed?

It was a quick search; I remember reading and watching videos on the matter.

Correction: It was not directly with the KKK, but with white groups that shared common interests in helping the working-class movement. There is one event I remember when a different group and the KKK worked together to force the government to pay their social services checks, but it was a while ago.

They were willing to work with them, but they did not change their positions to accommodate them. They did not sell out their own members or members of other minority groups in order to appeal to them.

I did not say or mention changing our positions; I said coming together on things we agree on, which includes addressing working-class struggles.