Wow, this thread is full of Russian bots and Trump supporters. Biden is the picture of health, extremely spry and cognizant, personally, I thought he handled himself very well in the debates, despite the media attacking him unfairly over his stutter. Regardless, he's the nominee, whether you like him or not, no amount of complaining will change that. He's the lesser evil so we're stuck with him and you just have to vote for him, unconditionally.
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there is a perfectly good flag for England that people refuse to use
Well yeah, but these days, you say you're English, you'll get arrested and thrown in jail 😆
We can't condemn the Nazis because if we condemn the Nazis people will think we're Nazis. When people see that we won't condemn the Nazis, that's how they'll know we aren't Nazis.
Non sequitor. Not what I said and not a Republican.
Campaigns are about winning swing states, those are just the rules of the game. Kamala lost that game worse than any Democrat in nearly 40 years. Maybe the rules we have aren't fair, and if they were different, she would've lost by a smaller margin. But then, both campaigns would've been run completely differently, the same candidates might not have even been the nominees, etc.
By the actual rules of the actual game, Kamala lost extremely badly.
This was literally the worst electoral map for the Democrats since 1988 when Republicans won Illinois and California.
Yeah I immediately called them out and cited someone getting arrested and convicted just for saying "from the river to the sea" and they immediately started downplaying it, with shit like, "Well, they could still challenge it in the supreme court" and "Well, the mood was elevated at that time," just absolute bullshit to try to cover their ass after getting caught in a lie. None of them even seem to care if the things they said are true or not, just so long as they can dickride Israel.
Just one conversation with the people in that thread made me incredibly frustrated and made me want to pull my hair out, and since then I've been thinking, "I know there are some Germans who are comrades, but I don't know how they do it." Being surrounded by these sorts of people all the time must be maddening. Granted, there's a lot of brainworms here in the US that are very frustrating to deal with, our political power is non-existent, and I envy German vacation days and stuff, but good lord.
Good luck staying safe and sane, comrade. I'm glad some Germans are capable of being anti-genocide.
Impossible! Why, only three days ago, the lovely Germans over on feddit.org informed me there's no real censorship in Germany and that the only things you can't say are "calls for the deaths of entire population groups!"
Trust these people no further than you can throw them.
UN Convention on the Rights of the Child
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convention_on_the_Rights_of_the_Child
:::spoiler Which Country is the Greatest Threat to Peace? (Gallup, 2018)
I'm confused, when you talk about voting "Democrat," do you mean, for the Democratic-Republicans? I was thinking of voting Federalist, personally.
Since our system makes it impossible to change from the two currently existing parties, it follows that the two parties we have now must be the ones we started with.
But regardless, this is typical shortsighted liberal (i.e. capitalist) analysis that only looks at the immediate outcome and only at electoral politics. If a significant portion of the electorate can make a credible threat to sit out if their demands are not met, then they can leverage that threat to get what they want. The right is much more willing to do this because they put their values above reason, and it works - many Republican candidates understand that if they look soft on things like abortion or guns, a sizable portion of their base will defect, even if it means voting for a crank and throwing the election. Democratic voters are much more committed to being "reasonable" and so refuse to set any red lines anywhere, and the results are clear: the right successfully shifts the Republicans to be more extreme, the Democrats follow, and the left falls in line and accepts it. We are desperately overdue to start learning from their successful tactics and from our own failures, setting down red lines, and thinking beyond the current cycle. And we can debate where exactly red lines should be set, but if genocide doesn't deserve one, nothing does.
Moreover, the facts of physical reality, the material conditions, and the myriad of crises we're facing demand radical changes beyond what we are told are possible in the existing system. But those things are physical, natural, immutable facts, while our political system is, on a fundamental level, manmade. We do not have to abide by its rules and what it tells us is and isn't possible - but we do have to do that regarding the laws of nature, which tell us about things like climate change. Monarchy had no mechanism built into the system to transform into liberal democracy, and yet, here we are. That's because there are fundamental mechanisms for change that exist within every political system, whether the system wants them to or not, and I don't just mean revolutions, but demonstrations, strikes, etc. And so, the party I voted for, PSL, participates in electoral politics for the express purpose of building organization beyond electoral politics. Helping a candidate who I see as fundamentally unacceptable win an election is less important that helping to promote that sort of organizing.
A note on this survey is that it was taken of all likely voters, so it's possible it could be influenced by conservatives being, let's say, not very normal about her. Regardless, people on both sides often see the Democratic party much further left than it really is.
More like, a good contingent of those voters voted unconditionally for these people, who they had every reason to believe would act like this. They did this to themselves.
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https://lemmy.ml/post/28111691/17749466
This is actually insane. Another user was criticizing the New Deal era and brought up a bunch of points, I commented refuting a bunch of their points but describing two of of them, Japanese Internment and the Red Scare, simply as "legitimate criticism."
@Decoy321@lemmy.world responded "No they’re not. Those two things were caused by far greater international factors. Like, you know, the 2nd World War."
I cited a commission that found that internment was not caused by a legitimate threat posed by the Japanese but was rather caused by racism and hysteria, and that even Reagan agreed with that conclusion and signed a bill paying reparations to the victims.
Well then the mod responded that I was jumping to "inflammatory conclusions" and "personal attacks" because I assumed that when they said that criticism of internment is not legitimate it meant that they were defending internment. They continued to refuse to explain how else I was possibly supposed to interpret such a claim. I still have no idea. Apparently their stance is, "It's not legitimate to criticize the thing I oppose." If anyone can make sense of that, please enlighten me.
Since they refused to explain, I took a guess that maybe the misunderstanding was that they were interpreting "legitimate criticism" as "damning criticism," like that because a bad thing happened during that era, nothing good came of it at all. I made it clear that this was speculation and that any criticism of interpreting it that way only applied if that's what was happening.
The mod responded by permabanning me, removing all of my comments so they don't show in the modlog, and adding this:
Edit: the other commenter essentially proved that they were just baiting people into inflammatory discussion. They kept resorting to personal attacks and flip-flopped on their position solely to continue arguing. This behavior is not tolerated here. Please report such trolls in the future.
At literally no point did I "flip-flop" my position of "internment was bad, actually." Nor did I "bait" them, unless "criticizing internment is legitimate," is somehow "baiting" someone into saying "no it isn't." By far the most "inflammatory" thing that was said was when they said that criticism of internment was "not legitimate." The "personal attacks" I made were stating the fact that the position they had expressed was to the right of Reagan on the issue, and also making a quip about a .world mod defending the Red scare and Joseph McCarthy.
This seems to be a case of a clear case of PTB, the mod apparently misspoke but because they're a mod they can just ban people for calling them out instead of owning up to it.
Edit: My comments are still visible on kbin.earth (thank you @Skua@kbin.earth) so I can provide screenshots:
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transcript
DISRUPT INTERNATIONAL SHIPPING NOW!!
OGEY
Niche ocean carrier Atlantic Container Line is warning the fines the U.S. government is considering hitting Chinese-built freight vessels with would force it to leave the United States and throw the global supply chain out of balance, potentially fueling freight rates not seen since Covid.
“This hits American exporters and importers worse than anybody else,” said Andrew Abbott, CEO of ACL. “If this happens, we’re out of business and we’re going to have to shut down.”
[...] U.S. is no position to win an economic war that places ocean carriers using Chinese-made vessels in the middle. Soon, Chinese-made vessels will represents 98% of the trade ships on the world’s oceans.
Hey, Abdul-Malik Badr Al-Din Al-Houthi, how'd I do?
Thank you Mr. President, that's exactly what I meant. But why-
Another day, another banger
:::spoiler spoiler
Context:
This comes from a game called "Queen's Wish: The Conqueror," a retro indie RPG. In the game, you play as the third child of the queen of Haven, a large and powerful nation, but up until now you've lived an idle live with little power and few responsibilities. The queen decides to send you off to reestablish control of lost vassals in a remote continent which were abandoned following a major magical disaster.
There are three vassal states and each has two factions who you can choose to support into power, usually one side being more aristocratic and the other being poorer. You also have the choice of how much you actually follow through with your assignment, you can just run around doing your own thing regardless of what the queen wants. But you can navigate a route where you side with the poor while still negotiating agreements as expected of you and feel like it's a "good guy" route. Although the queen would rather you work with the aristocrats, she's satisfied as long as you get either side to win and cooperate, just so long as somebody's keeping the spice flowing, so to speak.
This conversation occurs with a sage/scholar working in one of your forts in that region, who refers to "The Theory of Inevitable Decay." It's missable, but it's a crucial line of dialogue that recontextualizes everything that you're doing. From the beginning, you see a lot of the mess that was left behind and the power vacuum from when the kingdom pulled out before, but then, it sorta seems like you're fixing things, getting rid of bandits and warlords and establishing order, traditional fantasy hero stuff, and with a kinder, gentler hand, even. But even if you as an individual have the best intentions, you're still kind of setting things up in a way that's dependent on a great power a long way away. Haven has its own stuff going on and it probably isn't going to be knowledgeable about the region, interested in it's long-term well-being, or accountable to the people who live there. Sooner or later, it'll get a ruler who doesn't give a shit about a given vassal, and the vassal will fall to ruin - or so the sage suggests.
Anyway sorry I posted this in the wrong comm, this is just an interesting bit of dialogue from a video game with absolutely no relevance to modern day politics 😇
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You're exactly right. There's absolutely no way to influence the Democratic party's decisions through criticism or making it clear that they're on track to lose. Joe Biden is who we're stuck with and if you say you won't vote for him, you're completely useless. He's the only one who can beat Trump.
Strangely, he wasn't listed on my ballot so I just had to write him in.