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[–] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 47 points 2 months ago (25 children)

You know who else had to cut a whole bunch of content for a lack of time and still managed to deliver a truly perfect "both sides suck" storyline?

Fallout New Vegas trans-heart. Stop making excuses

[–] Guamer@hexbear.net 17 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (22 children)

The NCR is unironically way better tho

Caesar's Legion are literal slavers while the main criticism of the NCR was "muh taxes"

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 35 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (19 children)

The main criticism of the NCR is that it's a dying overextended Empire that can't take care of its own people and enjoys the occasional genocide. First as tragedy then as Fallout New Vegas

[–] Guamer@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

If the alternative is that world just playing Mad Max forever, I'm supporting the best chance it has at a halfway decent, stable unified governance/society, warts and all.

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The real alternative is the axed Followers of the Apocalypse questline that would have made an actual independent Vegas that lasted beyond the courier's lifespan possible.

[–] MasterBlaster@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 2 months ago

to be fair aside from the unavoidable "and some people died during the battle :(" slide, the independent ending that made it to release doesn't seem all that bad either. i just wish the aesthetics of the independent ending were less "anarchy fuck yeah" and more "the conditions were right for a near autonomous bastion city of the wastes"

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Guamer@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

It's a vidjagame, not theory, easy. lol

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

You didn't have to do Disco Elysium fans wrong like this.

[–] Guamer@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago (3 children)

lol

And no hard feelings, I know NCR ain't perfect. I'm just a One World (Ideally Communist) Government type guy, why I supported the Empire in Skyrim as well.

[–] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is why you install At Your Own Pace which just skips the stupid peace summit in its entirety

[–] TraschcanOfIdeology@hexbear.net 1 points 2 months ago

I've beaten Skyrim like 3 times and I don't think I've ever had to endure the peace summit. Or maybe I was so bored I just repressed the memory.

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

That one is a Sophie's choice of the Klan vs elf nazi lapdogs. I'd take my chances with the Daedra

[–] Guamer@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I suppose my headcanon is that maybe one day the Empire can regather it's strength enough to beat the Dominion in round 2, especially with the help of various magic Hero-kuns

[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I literally didn't even realize that whole empire/nord thing was supposed to be the main quest in skyrim, I ignored it completely and just ran around fighting dragons

[–] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

The Civil War questline runs parallel to the main quest, but you need to interact with it in order to kickstart the last part of the main quest.

You can beat the game without finishing it by getting everyone to do a meeting at the Greybeards's place to discuss a cease-fire while you do dragonborn shit, which is a neat quest idea, just not executed very well. If you finish the Civil War quest you skip this entirely.

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