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If there is such a thing as generational trauma, then inflicting of trauma is also generational (lemmygrad.ml)

submitted 1 month ago by multitotal@lemmygrad.ml to c/comradeship@lemmygrad.ml

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If we all agree that a people can experience trauma on a large scale and that trauma can then pass onto the descendants, then the reverse must also be true -- a people who have inflicted trauma on a large scale pass that experience onto the descendants.

People who are descended from people from slave-owning and imperialist nations carry with them the scars of slave ownership, genocide, oppression. It shows in the way they act, speak, think. Their worldview is informed by their history as masters of "lesser people".

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[–] King_Simp@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I think this is a false equivalence. Trauma is a...(sorry, im not a mental health expert) primal thing(?). As in, trauma is a part of your flight/fight/freeze/fawn response. The things that cause fear and despair and such that impact your survival can be passed down to your offspring to help them survive. But superiority and racism are something that's taught. There is a somewhat basic impulse (possibly) to be secure and to be wary of other "tribes" but it's not something passed down into offspring's subconscious, but something taught at a higher level.

I don't think we should forget that the woman who avenged Che Guevara was the daughter of a nazi

[–] multitotal@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

But superiority and racism are something that’s taught.

Yes. And those Nazis or whatever who have kids, they're not educating them in racism every day? Doesn't even have to be "education" but just how they refer (or not refer) to other people. Children are very good at learning by watching. That is how we learn to live in society.

the woman who avenged Che Guevara was the daughter of a nazi

An exception that proves the rule?

[–] King_Simp@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 week ago

I think you and I are referring to two different things here then. I'm not denying that colonial people's directly or indirectly teach their children to be racist/supremacist, etc. This is just basic Gramscian Hegemony. But it's not "traumatic." It can certainly be hard to unlearn, but (with the exception of recent colonization or being the offspring of some form of colonial enforcement like a cop or military man) there's not something "basic" about the colonialist mindset. To fix them doesn't necessarily require therapy or hospitalization, it requires education (a lot of it, depending on the society, but education nonetheless.)

And my point was that the possibility exists for someone to be a direct descendant of a colonizer and yet still be revolutionary at a fairly young age. So if its possible for one there's a good chance its possible for all. Ertl did not even live under a DOTP and yet performed revolutionary action, so I do believe that a DOTP, socialist education, and the advancement towards later stage socialism/communism would allow for former imperialist peoples to "behave well" so to speak. Of course thered be turmoil and such as in any revolution but I dont think the people of a socialist germany/france/etc. Would be imperialist just because their ancestors used to be imperialist, assuming again that education is forthright.