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[–] Saleh@feddit.org 40 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I remember smear pieces from German press after October 7 2023, where they claimed Greta would have fallen in the eyes of the world. The idea that "the world" may not follow the same narratives as Germany seemed to be beyond comprehension for those writers.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 24 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Germany is bound eternally to Israel because they'll never feel like they've atoned for the holocaust and Israel is THE Jewish state unfortunately. The historic antisemitism in Europe has been so bad that basically nobody can say anything bad about Israel without them playing the "oh we're doing that again?" Card. I have no idea what it would take for Israel to lose that association of anti-israel = anti-jewish that they've got protecting their every action. I know there are a lot of Jewish people who don't support Israel's actions, but apparently that's not enough.

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 17 points 4 days ago

I have no idea what it would take for Israel to lose that association of anti-israel = anti-jewish that they’ve got protecting their every action.

I mean, I know what it took for me. It's a shame so many in Gaza had to die for it, but I'll never look at them the same. Changing all of Germany/Europe may take longer, but surely what's happening is just as plain to anyone with eyes over there as it is over here in the land of the Mango Mussolini.

[–] IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Part of that problem is the say 5% of people for whom anti-Israel does mean anti-jewish, and the other people who would choose to respond to Israeli genocide with a genocide of their own. It gives the Israeli government and its supporters something to point to as justification, and people who don't pay much attention to the situation just accept that at face value.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 4 points 4 days ago
[–] _bac@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Maybe Germany can atone for one holocaust by working to prevent another one.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 2 points 3 days ago

Yes, but then they're anti jewish, full on hitler v 2.0 if they dare tell Bibi to fuck off.

Unless the Israeli population overthrows their own government (unlikely), nothing is going to happen any time soon :/