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[–] JokklMaster@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (16 children)

Emphasis on some. They are also unfortunately pro-Russia tankies.

[–] HellsBelle@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 weeks ago (14 children)

I'm interested in seeing your proof of that.

[–] JokklMaster@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago (13 children)

Bunch of links here - https://www.reddit.com/r/vermont/comments/11wlmkn/fyi_ben_cohen_ben_and_jerrys_is_donating_a/

Basically Ukraine should just "negotiate and end to the war" instead of fight for survival in their opinion.

[–] kurwa@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Being anti war is not being anti Ukraine or pro Russia for that matter.

[–] yucandu@lemmy.world 31 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

"suggesting that NATO expansion was one of the causes of the war"

“We gave Putin just cause,”

Those are definitely Russian propaganda talking points.

This is how they get us. Infiltrate the groups that we already agree with, like pro-Palestine, anti-Israel, then flood those communities with "...and also we should all hate NATO!", and people like this guy can't tell the difference.

[–] stopgermanizerz@endlesstalk.org 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I didn't need russia to hate nato. They killed left wing politician in europe from the 80ies

[–] yucandu@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

NATO did not kill any left wing politicians in Europe in the 80's, or elsewhere, or at any other time. That's Russian propaganda.

Yeah that doesn't work. I've been called a RUssiAn ShiLL a lot in here for caring about the genocide in gaza. You guys sounds like McCarty. You know what they say about crying wolf

The NATO operated a bunch of right wing spy in the intelligence services in the event of a communist invasion.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The EMN project promotes a group of U.S. military veterans as experts and pundits willing to talk about the war in Ukraine. Some of them have been echoing Kremlin propaganda lines by claiming that U.S. military support for Ukraine is extending and intensifying the fighting, and suggesting that NATO expansion was one of the causes of the war. “We gave Putin just cause,” the director of EMN, Dennis Fritz, told The Daily Beast in an interview.

This is not "anti-war" this is a "why are you hitting yourself" way of looking at things. Ukraine is a sovereign country that can make its own decisions. Supporting their fight against the invasion is not warmongering, it's the opposite. After all, it is just the latest in Putin's long list of wars, and if it does not stop at Ukraine, he will start more wars.

If ukraine is self-governing why didn't the gorbatchev referendum got respected?

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