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[–] entwine413@lemm.ee 11 points 2 days ago (15 children)

It's actually social services. You gotta treat the reason they're homeless in the first place.

[–] rockSlayer@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 days ago (10 children)
[–] entwine413@lemm.ee 7 points 2 days ago (8 children)

It depends on which homeless group you're talking about.

Whenever the subject of homelessness comes up, people seem to think the issue is only people who are temporarily down on their luck and just need a hand up.

They're not the group that's the main issue. The main issue is the people who are chronically homeless because they have an untreated mental illness, are treating that mental illness with drugs, or are just using drugs.

Their issue isn't a lack of money, it's a lack of help to actually be able to function in society. Because just giving them a house and money isn't treating the cause of their issue.

Think of it like crash dieting. Sure, you'll probably lose weight, but if you don't make the changes to address the reason you got fat in the first place, it's not a long term solution.

[–] dingus@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Yeah...I've always found it odd how internet dwellers seem to completely ignore the mentall illness and drug issues that cause and exacerbate much of homelessness.

That's not to say we shouldn't be compassionate, but the issue is a hell of a lot more complex than just giving them a house and nothing else.

[–] deegeese@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It feels good to say “give things to the poor”.

It’s no fun to say “force mentally ill addicts into treatment“.

[–] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well then we might have to reopen all those mental institutions that Reagan closed (only with ya know modern treatment).

[–] 5too@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Why didn't we ever reopen them?

I mean, I know why we don't now, but we had a few decades since Reagan of occasionally reasonable administrations...

[–] phdepressed@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Because you'd have to propose increasing taxes. Republicans/Reagan cut the top tax rate in half (70->35) and lucked into one of the best economic growths for a while as the Carter/Volker shock finally panned out and interest rates were dropped. It's why Reagonmics and a trickle down economy were able to remain major Republicans platforms since then.

So proposing a tax increase viewed as bad for the economy was a non-starter. The capture of both political parties to capitalism and business was probably more a kicked can from Mccarthy anticommunism stuff.

[–] 5too@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Im sure you're right, but.... Couldn't we just take, like, one knob from one of our billion dollar fighter jets, and pay for mental and social services that way?

Not even from every fighter of that type, just pick the one plane that's always down for maintenance anyway and, like, lock the AC to one temperature or something. Surely that tiny bit of a multi billion dollar airframe could cover some worthwhile social services?

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