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Lol they are taking a lot of credit for a movement I’ve never heard of before. But for the sake of innocent civilians I hope it works.
The Abandon Harris movement was huge in the Biden sphere. They got a large amount of people to not vote for Harris because she refused to fulfill their demands of stopping the genocide in Gaza.
And instead of doing a pity regret dance they now use their proven determination to threaten Trump to cave to their demand or face electorale backlash for it.
The people who might opt to not vote for Biden or Harris aren't people who would have voted for trump in the first place, so I don't see them having a lot of leverage.
I can't tell you what code to follow, but the whole thing reeks of people who didn't get the memo that trump doesn't need them to bleed votes from the Dems anymore.
It took a massive propaganda campaign, likely including their, efforts, to get Trump elected. If they were to dedicate resources to actually trying to help make the world a better place, it could assist in achieving his removal and prosecution.
It's adorable they think he'll allow them to do that.
I'm case no one has noticed, this fucking guy has been impeached (twice), violated countless laws, some of which resulted in 34 felony counts, incited an insurrection; none of which will he see justice for... And then ran for office on doing exactly what he's doing - which is being an agent of chaos...
...they helped put him back into power and now they think there's going to be another election? That they can somehow put the cat back in the bag?
That just means they'll be first.
Yup. Enable fascists that provided a public plan on how they intend to dismantle democracy and about-face when what everyone paying attention stated was going to happen? Too little too fucking late. If they want to dump money into supporting things that could result in actual meaningful resistance, I'm not going to object.
Yes, that's what an election campaign is
Yes, it they helped get him there much more than they can help remove him.
No the Democrats chose genocide over winning the election. Get your facts right.
It's an AND situation.
Dems went with the fucked up status quo.
Single-issue voters suddenly started caring about a genocide that's been going on for nearly 80 years that they previously didn't give two shits about (because of right-wing influence campaigns and bourgeoisie-owned media). They decided that the best course of action was to engage in purely performative, pseudo-political wankery that was only ever going to result in enabling fascists, as was easily seen in all extant historical election data from FPTP systems, so that they could pretend that they were doing something meaningful and stoke their egos by claiming that they had anything resembling moral high-ground.
Sorry, the world isn't black and white. It takes consistent, strategic engagement to effect positive change and these people chose instead to inflict greater suffering on humanity and pat themselves on the back for a job well done, while also doing fuck all in the way of direct action or attempting anything to meaningfully improve the human condition.
Oh! And to add to that, I'm regularly seeing the same people deriding anyone engaging in non-violent action as "shitlibs", specifically as it is not involving violence, while still doing absolutely nothing but be up themselves on the Internet. Want violence? Stop being a coward and do it yourself, rather than trying to pressure people into it on the online or engaging in the amoral religion that is accelerationism.
Both the genocidal neolibs and the egocentric protest non-voters are significant contributors in this. And before you try saying that I'm going easy on the nazis in order to deflect, no. Just stop with the dishonesty.
That's very fair. Really. I got in an AuADHD-fueled, sleep-deprived stream of consciousness.
I also agree. Palestine and the Palestinian people must be free.
weird that that wears you out
They told voters to abandon Biden and Harris because of their genocide.They didn't tell peoppe to vote for Trump, because Trump refused to be anti-genocide as well.
Abandon Harris subsequently endorsed Jill Stein, the most popular anti-genocide candidate.
The whole thing sends an extremely clear and important message for politicians to not support war and genocide.
And then Jill Stein won, and the genocide stopped, right?
Like I said, I don't question the intention or code of ethics for the people involved, but there's a reason they and people like them get a lot of support from the RNC.
They aren't voters who are realistically going to vote Republican, so the best they can do is be diverted to a spoiler candidate.
Thinking that that translates to political leverage against the Republicans is just naive though. They didn't vote for them in the first place, so it's an empty threat.
No because there's too many genocide supporters. At least Democrats learnt that there are people who unlike Democrat and Republican voters have morals and will not tolerate genocide no matter how hard they fearmonger.
Because Republicans were not the one doing the genocide at that time, whereas Democrats were. Now they Abandon Harris applies consistent morals and use their leverage to oppose Trump.
Surprisingly Red MAGA is providing a lot more opposition to the Iran invasion the Blue MAGA ever has. I was almost shocked to find out that the Democratic party is a bigger cult than Republicans. This momentum can certainly be translated into a campaign opposing Trump.
And yet their principled opposition not only did nothing, it's very clearly made things worse for basically everyone. The genocide didn't stop, but now there's not even token opposition. Iran is being bombed. Civil rights are being rolled back across the country, food aid is being taken from millions, and it's just starting.
The Democrats were never "doing genocide", just like the Republicans aren't now. The Democrats weren't saying they would do enough to stop someone else from doing it, and the Republicans were saying they would encourage them to do it harder.
Congratulations on being an unwitting mouthpiece for the RNC. "Maga is just a rude word to call someone! It's not literally what we have on our hats!” "staunch opposition to fascism is closed minded and just as prejudicial as wanting to eliminate trans people!”
I hope your movement does stop Trump and cause effective change and reform. I'm not holding my breath, because I don't think they were counting on your votes in the first place and the next time they think about you will be when they want you to be mad at the Democrats again to keep you from voting for them.
Most popular at 0.6% of the popular vote!