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The Stop Killing Games EU Initiative Is Likely to Fail, Why This Campaign Has Been Difficult, and PS Response (www.youtube.com)
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Please keep signing the petition, to prevent games from being intentionally destroyed by publishers like what happened to The Crew.

You deserve to keep the games you bought with your hard-earned money.

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[โ€“] MudMan@fedia.io -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And I'm saying, very seriously, that you don't "support a person". Either you think the argument is right or you think it's wrong (or somehwere in that spectrum, it certainly isn't a binary choice).

Agreeing with something because you think is right is not a judgement of character. I don't get to choose whether the guy is right, I don't have a particular stake on his personality and my stance is entirely independent of his.

And the same goes for Faliszek, incidentally.

I don't know how entirely serious you were, but those are absolutely the parameters of this conversation, not just with you but with everybody chiming in. And those parameters suck. They are extremely toxic and I reject them entirely. Seriously.

[โ€“] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Piratesoftware did not understand the original point of the campaign. Itโ€™s not that weโ€™re throwing out his words because of his character in general but how he specifically approached this. He misrepresented the petition, insulted Ross and deleted his message reaching out to discuss the topic and then gloated about it on stream.

Ross did not want to talk about the drama but he had to address the elephant in the room as people were listening to the bad faith arguments Thor originally made when they asking about Stop Killing Games in skepticism.

[โ€“] MudMan@fedia.io 0 points 2 days ago

OK, so ignore him. Other people who would know are making similar points about "the campaign". Argue with one you like in good faith.

If you make it about the Youtube drama you won't be taken seriously, and some of the points being raised are legitimate. Dismissing them based on the personality of the one guy just because he's more accessible or more susceptible to ad-hominem dismissals like these won't help there.