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God I will butcher it, but I remember someone asking about the revolutionary potential of gangs in the US. They asked it as politely as can be and got a pessimistic response. Why did they think the revolutionary potential low? I don't have a clue. I didn't think it would come up again
I still remember a thread where someone was talking about the revolutionary potential of modern lumpen making "lumpenproletariat" not a great class distinction, and one of the top comments was some snide "Lumpen drug runners aren't gunna' help us do communism, dude." Oh really? Why not? Seems like the people forced out of any "legal" means of selling their labor to survive would be primed for revolution. To me a lot of that thread read like hexbears with unexamined classism and even unintentional and unexamined racism. So-called "gang-affiliated" "criminals" are more often just members of ad-hoc organizations within marginalized communities struggling to survive within a system that wants to see them be literal slaves or cease to exist. Liberals spit on these "gang members" meanwhile white supremacist gangs are called "cops" and liberals honor them at every opportunity and expect complete deference to them. Most "gangs" may not be at all Marxist yet, but they have extremely high revolutionary potential.
The line I hear is that organized crime is likely to follow the money, and since the capitalists have more money, they could be too easily bought off and used as a contra-like force against a revolutionary movement.
I've wondered if something like that might be done to Mexico at some point with their cartels.
Mexico's cartels are basically CIA proxies and have been for a long time. They coordinated very closely with the DFS and their various rebrands which were in turn a way for the CIA to operate without having to use their own agents. They did the shady shit they didn't even want Mexican feds to do, and that's a scary fucking bar.
The cartels have a lot of money and a lot of power on the ground, but it's suspicious as hell that they keep on the cutting edge of CIA insurgency tactics, supply chains, drone warfare, hacking and even psyops to this day. They also conveniently strike exactly where and when the US government would like, as in the case of the new Culiacanazo around the national elections.
In Latin America, these organizations are very, very reactionary, and the US continually plays a role in keeping them that way. Within the US, I really don't know, but it's very telling that there's rarely any prosecution of traffickers in the way Latin America continually has to do. Yet the flow of drugs remains the same, and they keep getting sold in US streets and the money laundered in US banks.
Are we really supposed to believe that US corporations are in control of every market in the world but the richest and most powerful criminal organizations and their leadership are all abroad? CIA most likely advises against disruption because the biggest US gangs are in their pocket too.