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[–] WhereGrapesMayRule@lemmy.world 159 points 3 days ago (48 children)

Get your own gateway. Don't rent theirs.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 49 points 3 days ago (26 children)

You can buy cable modems cheap, too. No reason to use their crap at all.

[–] JasonDJ@lemmy.zip 25 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (24 children)

"cheap" is a relative term.

Nobody should be buying a DOCSIS 3.0 modem these days. They are obsolete and for some reason still being sold.

A decent DOCSIS 3.1 modem is at least $200. A Next Gen like S34 is at least $220. At least at the big blue big box store. And then you have to get your own wifi.

(However, that big blue store also will give you a 15% discount on any networking purchase if you recycle an old network device...I traded in an old modem but you should be able to find a switch or router at a thrift store and still come out ahead)

It pays for itself pretty quick (by not paying rental fees), but that doesn't necessarily make it cheap.

I absolutely prefer using my own equipment, and do...but it's also worth mentioning that in many markets, Xfinity removed data caps if you have a rented modem.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I used docsis 3.0 and it worked just fine. So why not?

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Because docsis 3.0 standard is nearly 20 years old at this point and 3.1 is significantly faster. Docsis 3.1 is only 15, but 4 (which is still 8 years old) probably isn't supported by your ISP yet. But the speed difference is quite noticeable. 3.0 will theoretically do 1gbps down, and 100-200 up, but 3.1 could do 10 down and 1gbps up. In the age of symmetrical fiber internet those upload speeds are dire. 3.1 realistically gets you a symmetrical gig connection.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Ah, so 3.0 is fine if your internet still sucks. Got it.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Exactly. So it's great for xfinity

[–] SaltySalamander@fedia.io 4 points 2 days ago

Xfinity likely wouldn't allow you to use it at this point. They've been pushing people toward 3.1 for a while now, and won't register a new 3.0 modem.

[–] ayaya@lemdro.id 5 points 2 days ago

I have a 3.1 modem but my ISP only has 3.0 speeds as far as I can tell. 1000/100 is their highest plan so the extra doesn't really do anything.

My modem is 32x8 and I can see in the UI that only 4 of the 8 upload channels are actually bonded to reach that 100, which is half of the 200 that 3.0 can theoretically do.

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