All from in this thread in !world@lemmy.world about a chant at a British music festival where an artist said "death, death to the IDF".
After other users were quoting that chant in the comments and had comments removed and banned, the hero of our story, @theacharnian@lemmy.ca (appearing as "acargitz") pointed out that under international law, fighting an occupying force is legitimate. But apparently not under world news rules, as their removed comments and the many explanations from mods make clear in the thread.
Equally against the rules is the call for the eradication of an organisation or business, even without an explicit call to violence against individual members of the business.
In the same thread: user @DeathToTheIDF@lemmings.world had comments removed for being anti-American "(again)", though I couldn't see the first time. It's not even clear to me how the removed comments were anti-American.
Bonus points for the "DC Comics" removal reason. Though this seems to be incompetence, rather than malice.
It's not "defending genocide" to say !world@lemmy.world does not allow advocating violence.
I stand on my record calling for Netanyahu and the rest of Likud to be arrested and prosecuted at a Tribunal in the Hague, but somehow not advocating for murder = pro genocide to the asshats on lemmy.
So who is it okay to call for violence against, and eho is it not? You'd get less hate if you clarified.
For this person (who ironically mods !thepoliceproblem@lemmy.world), I think the answer is black & white; it’s childishly simple. Violence is strictly reserved for the state, because the state has a monopoly on violence.
The Police Problem has a similar rule:
"③ Saying ~~cops~~ ANYONE should be killed lowers the IQ in any conversation. They’re about killing people; we’re not."
I HAVE had rule 3 violations, rare but they have happened. Actually, it's super rare I have to moderate anything there, people are super chill.
I actually used to have more removals based on rule 2, but that evened out:
"② If you’re here to support the police, you’re trolling. Please exercise your right to remain silent."
I have no reason to believe you’d be inconsistent.
There's no reason to be consistent when different communities have different rules.
People can come into News, Politics, or World and suck police cock all day every day if that's what they want to do, it's not removable there.
I mean, it's Lemmy, they DON'T, but they could.
It IS removable in the Police Problem.
When I look at the list of current reported posts and comments, the first thing I look at is "Wait, which community again?" What's removable in one isn't necessarily removable in another.
In fact, the mods were just having a sidebar about gaming. A story from April got posted up and folks were wondering if it's removable.
Nope, gaming doesn't have a "last 30 days" requirement the way World and News have.
But me talking about FEMINISM is a removable offense?????? According to you???? And it's also funny to you to remove it???? Just want clarity - cop propaganda is fine, but feminism isn't?
Eta: coward still hasn't reponded, probably because he's a misogynist. Who again, should not be in charge of a POLITICS lemmy
That's not what got you banned, you got banned for tinfoil hat conspiracy theory:
https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=6925869
Banned LustyArgonian from the community politics
reason: Repeated misinformation
mod
Removed Comment Bruh the voting machines indeed are connected to the internet. I have given you multiple official sources for this. It's not a tinfoil hat if it's real. Wow, I can't believe how much people like you support fascism with your deliberate ignorance. by LustyArgonian
reason: Repeated misinfotmation
Yeah I linked that itt and clearly stated that. I want my comments reinstated still. And it wasnt a conspiracy, I literally cited a documentary with John McCain and Hillary Clinton, NBC, journalists, the treasury department, NPR, etc. None of it is a “tinfoil hat conspiracy theory” - or is Clinton a conspiracy theorist?
I was speaking to rule 3, which is consistent. The irony I alluded to is that ACAB is usually associated with people who think that, in some cases, it is legitimate to use violence against the state, whom the police serve.
Of course it's consistent. If someone argues for murdering someone, and I see it, either organically or because it got reported, I have and will remove that comment.
The only inconsistency is in what I can personally see. I'm not omniscient, which is why the report functionality is so important.
Are there calls to violence that don't get removed? Of course there are, we can't be everywhere and if nobody reports them, there's a fair chance we won't see them.
What I'll never do is the bullshit reddit does where they lock a thread because it gets too many reports. That's just fucking moderation cowardice. I'd rather individually remove 100 infringing comments than lock the whole thread.
It isn't consistent, you treat women completely differently than men. I have been treated extremely unfairly by you. I have tried to communicate that with you. I assume you have dick issues and thats why you hate women.
On the internet, nobody knows who you are unless you tell them. I don't deliver special treatment to anyone based on gender.
You have a long removal and ban history in communities that have absolutely nothing to do with me or mine.
https://lemmy.world/modlog?page=1&actionType=All&userId=6925869
I banned you in Politics for repeatedly spreading misinformation, as I have done many others, with no knowledge of their gender identity.
You think you get to determine if you are sexist or not? You think removing comments from a feminist and a sexist arguing, is being fair to women? Why do you think reputable sources are misinformation? Which sources SPECIFICALLY in that post was misinformation?
I have a long ban history because men on Lemmy are weak spined misogynists. I'm proud of going against your bullshit. Fuck you
You weren't banned for feminism. You were banned for tinfoil hat election conspiracy theories.
Yeah I linked that itt and clearly stated that - I am upset about (2) separate issues. I want my comments (feminist) reinstated still, which imo was why you were searching for a reason to ban me and chose to call me a hysterical crazy woman with the "tinfoil hat" thing. You also brought up the woman eating salad thing, laughed at me, said I wasnt a priority (okay, then what exactly is a priority for a MOD, you dick), and generally treated me like a sexist PoS about my concerns regarding feminism previously and now.
And it wasnt a conspiracy (the ban), I literally cited a documentary with John McCain and Hillary Clinton, NBC, journalists, the treasury department, NPR, etc. None of it is a “tinfoil hat conspiracy theory” - or is Clinton a conspiracy theorist? Tell me which sources exactly were not okay? What specifically was wrong with what I said? If you tell me a conspiracy, I can refute it by at least pointing out specific examples. What specifically did I say that is a "conspiracy theory?" Why can't you tell me that? I linked the post. You permabanned me for it, you can't take the time to tell me why? Youre so busy stroking your micropenis to your ban logs you cant tell me why?
Eta: Fuck you, you gaslighting misogynistic lying PoS
And comments like that are exactly why you keep getting bans and removals.
"See I can't be sexist when I hate you for being a feminist who stands up for herself."