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Spousal rape still happens, most rape happens without consequence. It's that women have access to birth control that allows them to control how many kids they have.

The reason replacement level is down is because birth control (eg levongestrol) was invented and became in use in the 70s, with global advances in human rights and better financial equity in many places. Since then, the average person has gotten poorer and poorer, it's harder to afford a home, etc, because income inequality has increased and ownership has been stolen from us transaction by transaction.

Look again at my reasons listed for why women do and don't choose to have kids. One of them is financial reasons.

Right, but we are talking about taking those in the past, not the present. So the women at the time were comparing how safe these abortifacients are versus pregnancy and childbirth and possible forced proximity to the father.

https://www.thearchaeologist.org/blog/admire-the-3000-year-old-condom-of-the-egyptian-pharaoh-tutankhamun-archaeologists-are-amazed

We've had condoms a long time. No, they were not as efficient.

No offense, but you probably attract and demand a certain kind of sex. Sex is extremely varied. A lot of women like dick, but I know of many women who like oral. Either way, whatever some women enjoy with sex doesn't mean they would engage in that if it risked their life and they could just be fingered or use a dildo (also a lot of ancient dildos). A lot of women are perfectly satisfied masturbating and not having a partner at all. The reason we invented modern methods is because people have been demanding its development.

And pulling out or finishing with oral after penetrative sex can be considered akin to birth control, while also not perfect, it's better than nothing especially in ancient times.

So when is this hypothetical society except in Christian nirvana sexual fantasy?

You've had sex with women in modern times with access to birth control, so lucky you, you get to have more penetrative sex. If it was going to kill her, like in ancient times, you'd probably both do other stuff if you cared about her. Or masturbate. People aren't entitled to sex.

The point is that lesbian sex is often nonpenetrative and those women in lesbian relationships report higher sexual satisfaction and more orgasms.

Back then, women would've known someone (friend, cousin, sister, aunt) who died in childbirth and would have taken it seriously as a risk. Just like we take driving seriously today because it carries a risk of harm, so we wear seatbelts and have airbags. We decided these were a good idea due to the history of carriages and cars, and gave up some freedom and comfort so we could increase health outcomes. Like with modern birth control.

Eg, 20th century postcard advocating for birth control and freedom of choice: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Victorian_Postcard_-_woman_hitting_stork_with_parasol.jpg

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Because I embarrassed them in front of others and their egos can't take the shame. I had a list of some of the threads of obscene misogynistic behavior I've seen on Lemmy and it included mods.

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? Women have long had methods of abortion via plants. I myself know of several. Further, condoms made from animal parts and nonpenetratice sex are a thing. Women have lesbian sex. Sexual pleasure and arousal isn't per se related to procreation - this is a typically Christian belief (that guilt trips people into sexual activity that produces babies) but not actually based in sexual reality.

If sexual arousal was strictly related to reproduction, then gay people would never be sexually aroused by each other as many gay couples can't procreate with each other. But yet they exist. Because sexual arousal, while driven by evolution, isn't related to reproduction unless that person has a kink for reproduction.

No, women do not have sex if they think it or pregnancy will kill them.

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I can see that interpretation, but I would point out that this person is talking about a narrow time in history and not necessarily all of human evolution or even all of human experience for that time. Further, sexual desire isn't exactly tied to reproduction - reproduction can be intentional or spontaneous. Love is an enduring human trait.

Second, I think it's more the implication that women given access to birth control and abortions only choose to have 0-3 kids on average, so we can perhaps extrapolate that many women in the past would've chosen the same but couldn't. Why? Well, no birth control and spousal rape was literally legal until the 90s. It's not that they never wanted ANY kids, it's that given choice, they have less kids on average overwhelmingly for decades across class, nationality, etc. Women are typically concerned about the pain and danger of pregnancy and child birth; having enough time for their kids; financial worries relating to birth and childrearing; and whether their kid will have a good future.

Still, I will avoid posting it again.

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Because I'm actively being brigaded and harassed by misogynists.

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A friend of mine started playing again and said it was really good. Idk about the time sink though.

You gotta find a good guild to dungeon crawl or raid with. My favorite thing was being raid lead during Mists and working with a big team. I did some competitive WoW back then, and even played with Asmongold, my character is in some of his old videos. Makes me pretty sad how he turned out.

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