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[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 59 points 1 day ago (38 children)
[–] RobotZap10000@feddit.nl 44 points 1 day ago (25 children)

That """"human"""" skeleton in the fourth item gave it away immediately. Now that I look at it further, "Isolation & Surveillance" and a picture of a megaphone??? "Fear as a tool of control" with a lightning bolt in someone's head??? Did OP even read their slop before vomiting it here?

[–] obinice@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (4 children)

What's wrong with the skeleton? It's stylised of course as these sorts of icons tend to be, but generally correct. Pelvis, spine, ribs, head, etc.

The megaphone seems like a very good way to evoke images of an abusive overseer controlling the camp's prisoners using technology of the modern day, an effective image for a section on monitoring and control, no?

There is no standardised symbol for fear within a person's mind, so again, a stylised symbol showing a lightning bolt is fine. Especially given that it is likely there on purpose - think shocks. Shocks of a different kind you may receive under an evil oppressive prisoner camp system (imagine the sudden shock in ones mind as a guard shouts or lashes out at you, I would certainly consider symbolising that in this manner).

It's as if you've never looked at anything anyone's made with simple clipart and the like before, and assume everything must be extremely deep and custom designed by experts?

Even if this were made with the help of AI, I don't see the message being any less valid, just because the person didn't go download an image editor to a PC, learn how to use it, learn how to import SVG icons and research for the most appropriate ones, build the image and export it appropriately, etc.

Not everybody is as skilled or capable as you or I may be in producing something that we might consider simple. Heck, some people only have a smartphone, not everybody has the luxury of owning a PC and proper software, nor the time or inclination to learn such tools.

The message in this image is conveyed very well, and is relevant to the current fascist regime's actions in the USA (and indeed is a universally important message).

If you want to suggest it's bad (or "slop", as you so evocatively put it) just because you don't like the image creator used to put it to print, well, that's a weird hill to die on, to be honest.

You better hope your country never duplicates the USA's slide into fascism, or you yourself may one day end up in a camp... or worse. How quick to attack the people trying to raise awareness of these abuses of human rights then, I wonder?

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 3 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

that’s a weird hill to die on, to be honest.

Welcome to Lemmy (and Reddit).

Makes me wonder how many memes are "tainted" with oldschool ML before generative AI was common vernacular, like edge enhancement, translation and such.

A lot? What's the threshold before it's considered bad?

[–] superb@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Well those things aren’t generative AI so there isn’t much of an issue with them

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

What about 'edge enhancing' NNs like NNEDI3? Or GANs that absolutely 'paint in' inferred details from their training? How big is the model before it becomes 'generative?'

What about a deinterlacer network that's been trained on other interlaced footage?

My point is there is an infinitely fine gradient through time between good old MS paint/bilinear upscaling and ChatGPT (or locally runnable txt2img diffusion models). Even now, there's an array of modern ML-based 'editors' that are questionably generative most probably don't know are working in the background.

[–] superb@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

Id say if there is training beforehand, then its “generative AI”

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Not a great metric either, as models with simpler output (like text embedding models, which output a single number representing 'similarity', or machine vision models to recognize objects) are extensively trained.

Another example is NNEDI3, very primitive edge enhancement. Or Languagetool's tiny 'word confusion' model: https://forum.languagetool.org/t/neural-network-rules/2225

[–] superb@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 13 hours ago

Someone owns stock in AI 💀💀

[–] Duke_Nukem_1990@feddit.org 14 points 1 day ago (5 children)

What's wrong with the skeleton is, that it has a second head where an ass should be.

[–] jpeps@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

I think it is a pelvis on the left as others have said. I have to admit though I thought I was looking at two skulls, probably because I was biased to look from left to right so I just accepted the left one as a skull and then the right skull actually looks like a skull. My first thought though was that it was an abstract depiction of overcrowding, so it was intentional to show two skeletons pushed close together.

[–] superb@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 13 hours ago

The rib cage is also way too long, and wtf is that bone under the ass head

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 23 hours ago (1 children)
[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 3 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

A pelvis with 4 holes.

EDIT: and the small holes are above the bigger hole.

[–] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 19 hours ago

Those are speed holes.

[–] Spezi@feddit.org 11 points 1 day ago

So the opposite of trump where there is a second asshole in his face

[–] kassiopaea@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 1 day ago

Looks more like a pelvis than a head to me. 🤷

[–] Fifrok@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 day ago

nobody is gonna be reading all that lmao

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