I don't know why I still have a (banned) account, or why it's subscribed to EngineeringStudents, but look at this.
I know this is just another metastasis of wage labour, but I just feel contempt for these people. Like, your issue isn't with engineering being a shithead profession with nothing of value and just endless upsell! upsell! upsell! lie! lie! lie! bullshit! bullshit! bullshit! but instead you cry over not finding a job in this shitstorm. To be honest, I also feel contempt for my colleagues... probably for the same reason; because they enjoy mucking about in this pigsty too.
Okay, that's it for my unproductive and shitstirring thoughts for the day :)
I've worked on both sides of the engineering / technician class divide in manufacturing. Most engineers are worthless lazy pieces of shit that huff their own farts and insist you're the dumb one.
I'm between jobs at the moment (by choice), on paper I'm like the guy bitching, but even in this market I was able to make some phone calls. You're doing it wrong if you're rawdogging applications. If you have had manufacturing experience like this guy says he has and are known for being okay at making stuff work you'll get hired.
I've worked with a few professional engineers in my line of work, and they've all been pretty awful. They tend to do the bare minimum and push a huge amount of technical decision making onto the lower level drafters and designers. Most of them just want to stamp a page and get paid, but aren't afraid to criticize the work of others without ever offering good solutions.
I've worked technician and design roles for like 10 years in manufacturing, now I just test and do QA and field work, but there are some good engineers out there. It's like anything, there's some boneheaded ones that you wonder how in the world they're getting paid more than you and have more responsibility, but when you get a good engineer who knows their shit it's like night and day. There are a few I really respect and like to bounce ideas off of and talk because I do have a genuine interest in this field.
That being said, the kids coming out of college are the worst. I should not be teaching you how to read a wiring diagram when you're in charge of the project. And don't even get me started on hands-on work they'll do haha. I went to take 480v power off something the other day, they had left it on overnight.
I really don't think any engineering grad should touch a project until theve worked a technician or design position. It's wild how many I've seen be thrown into project management roles straight out of school.
It would be one thing if they were for the most part friendly and knew how to work well with people, but geez, my experience with them is basically like babysitting your boss. So many times I've just had to forsee their mistakes, come up with the solution, and wait until shit hit the fan to fix the obvious problem because they're too proud of themselves to listen.