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[-] IsThisLemmyOpen@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You shouldn't be disrespectful to people who can fuck up your life (well you shouldn't be disrespectful to most people, but especially not when they have power over you). You can assert your rights without being hostile. Just be nice, say: "I invoke my 5th amendment right to silence, and I would like to contact an attorney." No need for "bitch" or "pig" or anything similar. I'm personally not a fan of law enforcement, in fact I resent them, but I aint gonna flip them off when I see them.

Edit: When I say "disrespectful" I meant more like "provocative". Don't try to provoke a hostile reaction. I know it sucks to be nice to cops, but sometimes you just gotta hold in the anger, just to live to fight another day.

[-] IntlLawGnome@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

I think you may have intended your comment as a top-level one rather than a reply to mine. But in case there's any confusion, there isn't a single thing about my comment above that suggests anyone should be "disrespectful" to police or anyone else.

Nor was disrespect at issue in article I linked. A guy demanded an attorney, as he was permitted to do under the US Constitution; he was denied that right; and a Louisiana Supreme Court justice articulated a frivolous reason for excusing that denial. Even if he had been disrespectful (and there's no indication he was), that should not be acceptable.

Some hypothetical about individual disrespect has no bearing on a systemic abuse like that. Which is why I assume you didn't mean your comment as a reply to mine.

Oh I mean the part about "dog" which could be seen as disrespectful.

[-] jiji@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Comment OP meant it more like “dawg” like “Yo dawg, wassap?” But made a joke about “lawyer, dawg” and “lawyer dog”. :)

[-] IsThisLemmyOpen@lemmy.dbzer0.com -3 points 1 year ago

Even dawg can be seen as disrespectful. The cops don't wanna associate with what they deem to be "thugs". They don't want to be your "homie" or "dawg", so when you call them that, you are acting like their friends, and the cops think of themselves as having a higher status than you, not as your friend. Its like if you talk to conservative parents and call them "bro" they'll slap the shit out of you, even tho the term "bro" isn't even inherently offensive.

[-] Itty53@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

"Disrespectful" is absolutely the wrong word. I don't owe cops shit. Certainly not respect.

I act mature around them for my own benefit, not to satiate their need for "respect". What the average person gives cops isn't respect, its fear. I respect cops the way I respect guns, treat them poorly and shit you don't want will happen. That speaks far far less of police officers than it ever rightly should.

Fuck the police, I want to speak with an attorney.

Maybe "disrespectful" is the wrong term. I meant more like "provocative".

[-] nightauthor@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

Gotta love a power trip

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