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Of course, Your Party has more elected MPs than Green's as independents. I really want the Green's to succeed but they fail consistently to get through to people like Corbyn has. Lucas is really good and well missed but without her at the forefront, Green's disappear into obscurity. Leadership is a real problem for the left. Sultana does have really good potential though.
I think and hope they can form a pact and work together though. Politics needs better left representation.
It's not clear yet if all the pro-Gaza independents or the suspended Labour MPs have signed up to this. Only Corbyn and Sultana's names on the statement!
According to Sky News, the other members of the Independent Alliance are 'fully supportive' of the new party.
Fully supportive, but not supportive enough to put their names to the launch? Fair enough, but I guess we'll see how it shakes out.
You forget how politics work. Did Jeremy's cabinet resign all at once? It was one a day. Media cycles mean it's note effective to build little and often.
Corbyn's Cabinet did not resign one a day, although, as you say, they should have done. In fact, they were in such a rush to resign that the Whips couldn't keep up. Some resigned individually and some in groups. It was exactly this total disorganisation which led to their failure!
In any case, I've got replies here telling me it's a publicly known fact that they're all supportive one way or another, and you telling me they're going to build up to announcing public support. These can't both be true.
Pretty sure they did it one a day, it was a strategic way to undermine confidence. The failure was because Corbyn didn't step down.
Media wouldn't say independents are on board if they are not. They use sources and verify for a reason. What I'm referring to is others that will likely join. Abbot and McDonald likely will at some point. But they will wait so it doesn't look like a left project and appeals to soft left folk. 4/5 suspended members of Labour might be a possibility. Then you have the Socialist Campaign Group. There is likely 20 names that could join. Burgon, RLB, Slavery etc. There is still plenty of momentum that could be generated. Many Soft Left rebels from Labour not happy with Tory lite might even consider this.
'On 26–29 June 2016, 21 members of the Shadow Cabinet resigned from the frontbench.'
That's twenty-one resignations over four days, so not one a day.
I don't think the rest of your comment is relevant. I accepted that the 'fully supportive' quote was accurate at the outset, so clearly I'm not questioning the media's reporting. I'm just saying it's not clear what will happen next - because it isn't - and simply observing that they've yet to say anything about it outside of this comment which comes from 'a source close to Corbyn', not from the MPs. The rest of your comment is speculation. It may all come true, yes, and I wouldn't even be particularly surprised if it did. But it also may not.