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I find it very hard to imagine that there isn't evidence of this traitor directly plotting with Trump et al. We just haven't seen it yet.
It could just be hopium, but I doubt it; we certainly haven't seen the last of Jack Smith on Jan 6th indictments, after all.
I have no doubts that at some point before the election their was a Coup Plot Kickoff Meeting with at least Bannon, Stone, Treason Trump, and Guiliani in the meeting. I don't know who else was in this meeting, but we know that Bannon and Stone attended the meeting because of their video confessions.