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I was SA'd by Rationalists, AMA. (awful.systems)

submitted 1 day ago by ivyastrix@awful.systems to c/sneerclub@awful.systems

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Hi, Ivy Astrix here. I saw some of my work referenced here so figured I'd pop in and do an AMA. I did harm reduction at Vibecamp 1/2, and Vibegala 1/2. Happy to answer what I can as long as it doesn't violate confidences or isn't in service of personal grievances.

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[–] self@awful.systems 1 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

I’m glad you’re able to join us. what you went through — both the acts themselves as well as the Rationalists defending each other and ostracizing you afterwards — breaks my heart. I have just a couple of questions for now:

are you ok with links to your previous writing on this topic being posted in this thread? this isn’t to establish proof (it’s already abundantly clear that you’re telling the truth, and we know the Rationalists have a history with both committing and systematically excusing SA), it’s just to provide further detail to anyone who wants it.
is there anything our community can do to help make it easier to discuss what happened?

[–] ivyastrix@awful.systems 2 points 12 hours ago

Thank you for this, I really appreciate it <3

yes please do feel free to reference my work, I'm pretty realistic about the fact that once you talk publicly on something like this it's more or less open season

thank you for asking but I'm in a much better place now and talking about it doesn't bother me as much as it used to

[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 3 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

Seconding this. I'm really grateful that she's willing to talk about this here, and what confirmed stories like this we have show where the Rationalists really cross the line from being cringe and dumb to actively dangerous and malevolent. But also I have to confess that I'm not familiar with what she's written about it previously (or indeed any of her previous writings) and I don't want to ask anything that's been answered already, especially when careless questions risk prodding old pains.

Ed: I have since done the requisite work of a 10-minute google and longer substack dive but will hold off on specific references or links until we get a confirmation that she's okay with that.

Ed2: this is what I get for going straight into the edit without refreshing first. Foot, meet mouth. Egg, meet face. Etc.

[–] ivyastrix@awful.systems 3 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I've written about it from a lot of different angles, this is probably the most 'broad' and covers the entire ecosystem (but is long) : https://theasterisk.substack.com/p/reflecting-on-a-few-very-very-strange

you can check out my other posts if you like, they are more from a personal point of view in terms of what things felt like

[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 4 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (1 children)

I actually didn't refresh to see this until after I had read the pair of "A Normie Girl in Rationalist America" posts (Part 1) (Part 2) and wanted to echo the thanks for sharing your experiences.

[–] ivyastrix@awful.systems 2 points 11 hours ago

thank you <3