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what the everLLM-ing fuck is going on (join.piefed.social)

submitted 4 days ago by froztbyte@awful.systems to c/techtakes@awful.systems

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as seen here and here, some instances are feeding posts wholesale to prompts, for what seem like extremely unsound reasons to me

any of you run into this shit yet?

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[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

You should follow the comments in those links showing that this is deliberate disinfo.

Here's existing discussions: https://piefed.social/c/fediverse/p/2032935/ai-assisted-moderation-in-the-fediverse-is-happening-now-what

From the horse's mouth: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/25880065

[–] self@awful.systems 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

you thought I’d be ok with this shit because it was done with an allegedly open source model? I’m so glad you ignored all our posts about unchecked algorithmic bias and the fucking rotten origins of every open source model (hint: you don’t have the resources to train a model because you aren’t a billion-dollar company and that’s by design) because moderating your instances appropriately was ooh just too haard

my guy what in the fuck are we doing here? more to the point what are you doing here?

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You'd think you'd be able to see the posts I linked and realize we didn't actually moderate our instances with LLMs?

[–] self@awful.systems 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Finally, just because I included an LLM summary of the comment history in the public modlog, it does not logically follow that the ban occurred because of the LLM summary. It simply happened to correspond very well to my own manual review

yeah, it’s ok because the LLM wasn’t hooked up directly to the ban API, you just used it systemically to not do the only fucking thing you’re supposed to be doing as a moderator

this human in loop shit is how corporations absolve themselves of responsibility for decisions taken purely on the word of an LLM. it lets them fire a worker instead of an executive. you’re sure this is the route you want to go?

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

yeah, it’s ok because the LLM wasn’t hooked up directly to the ban API, you just used it systemically to not do the only fucking thing you’re supposed to be doing as a moderator

Can you fucking read? What "systematically" are you talking about? How did we use it " only fucking thing you’re supposed to be doing as a moderator"? Is summarizing "the thing you're supposed to be doing as a moderator"? Is doing a summary once "systematically"? Why are you continuing to spread disinfo?

Once again. The admin in question DID NOT USE THE LLM TO DECIDE ON THE ADMIN ACTION. Can you understand this? Can you read this? Am I talking to a wall?! You are swallowing disinfo and then spitting your outrage mindlessly on people.

[–] self@awful.systems 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

no but you’re about to be talking to a defed unless you stop this all caps fake outrage shit. should I do you the favor of deleting the garbage post you just made so you can give it another go?

[–] self@awful.systems 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

think very carefully on this because I’m not sure pretending to not understand what I’m asking is working out for you

[–] db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

this human in loop shit is how corporations absolve themselves of responsibility for decisions taken purely on the word of an LLM. it lets them fire a worker instead of an executive. you’re sure this is the route you want to go?

I completely agree with you. We have never and will never go that route.

Here's the answer to the only question you posted which should be obvious from everything else I've said and done.

[–] self@awful.systems 0 points 4 days ago

cool! please make it clear to the mod in question that they shouldn’t be using an LLM for anything in the future, even summarizing posts. make it part of your instance’s policies.