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you can move to signal, but can you move your friends and family with you? like they're going to listen
Just rip the bandaid off.
90% of people I speak to either already had or then installed Signal. It's just another app to them and doesn't require deleting WhatsApp to get.
If those in the know are unwilling to move off WhatsApp why would the ignorant ever do it?
Ripping the band-aid off for me would mean not connecting with 99% of the people I regularly message to.
Yeah I can't do that lol
It's not ideal but SMS still works
It’s worse than WhatsApp
Unencrypted stuff
Worse than having closed source Meta software on your phone or computer?
It's shit, yes, but it's certainly not worse than Meta.
You could use the poor experience and security as a catalyst to convince the holdouts to move to Signal or whatever as well.
Yea it’s a lot worse
Apps are really sandboxed in phones, and if you don’t give access to your contacts and stuff, it’s -relatively- fine
Poor security? WhatsApp uses the Signal protocol…
I was referring to poor SMS security, not WhatsApp. As in, SMS is a temporary measure to stay in contact, which you then use to pivot people towards Signal.
The issue with WhatsApp is it's closed source and originates from a company with a history of scandals, nefariousness, and support of MAGA.
Pretty much all apps are closed source and I hate it but that’s how it is.
My bad, misunderstood. But if you want my opinion, I prefer discussing on WhatsApp than the HTTP~~S~~ version of messengers
It’s safe to assume that 100% of SMS are stored and monitored by different governments, due to how the system works
https://lemmy.world/post/42253670
It's not confirmed, could be bullshit, but I came across this and thought with our recent interaction you might find it interesting.
Thanks, I’ll have a look!
Fuck that
Matrix is good for those situations, there are bridges to pretty much everything these days.
I agree that everyone should use signal, but do you not see how this argument works better in other people's favor? Youre the one demanding that people change their habits and their app of choice in order to stay in communication with you. "I wont use facebook messenger or google messages" 'well i guess an app is more important to you than staying in contact with your friends and family'
Lmao i can see why your family probably doesnt care if they can contact you.
'Thoughtful' im not going to waste my time on irritable people who are angry for no reason and can't see things from other people's perspectives. Like i said, o ise sognal and think everyone should, but from the perspective of your loved ones, YOU'RE the one choosing an app preference over the relationship not them. Youre asking them to make a change and adopt one of your preferences, and setting an ultimatum that you wont talk to them unless they do. I think its silly still, but thats how theyre going to see it, not the other way around.
they may be angry but i don't think they are wrong. everyone makes their own choices, and they still have phone and sms. none of us are locked into big tech systems, even tho they want us to think we are.
i got my parents on Matrix. just try and explain.