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[–] Pissed@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Lol intelligence agencies internal documents aren't part of the propaganda machine why would the CIA produce pro Stalin propaganda? OK maybe there was a double agent in the CIA that could be possible, but to say that they produce propaganda internally to show each other is a very weird thing to say. What's the point of having an intelligence agency that classifies its documents if they're just going to publish lies internally? You have the press to publish propaganda. I'm sorry your argument is just really bad. If you wanted to make a good argument you would go into the files and check what other agents were saying and cross reference them with this report, not just dismiss it because it came from the CIA. Most historians would give both their hands to have access to classified documents there is a reason why documents like this stay classified. I assume all this stuff was declassified after the Cold War

https://youtu.be/n7FndCC9efg

There is a cool video about Marx guess what it draws from classified documents that various police agencies in Europe had on Marx (some of them are still classified BTW) why the fuck would spies waste their time producing propaganda for other spies on their own side?

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Great. Did you read about how I said "some validity"? Doubtful

[–] Pissed@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I did, and I thought it was dumb.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Pissed@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I can tell. Edit Why even post your opinion if you don't care.

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Pissed@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Pissed@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I do think its hilarious that you think that intelligence agencies just sit around producing internal propaganda. You would of probably thrown away the MKULTRA files or the Snowden leaks after all it came from the CIA and NSA it might just be propaganda. Edit: I also think its funny that you think the CIA and KGB.or any intelligence agencies files are bad sources they're fucking good sources

[–] T00l_shed@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I do think its hilarious that you think that intelligence agencies just sit around producing internal propaganda.

Its a good thing I don't think that's all they do then, lol.

You would of probably thrown away the MKULTRA files or the Snowden leaks after all it came from the CIA and NSA it might just be propaganda.

You know not everything is black and white right? Thete exists a thing called nuances. It's really not that complicated

[–] Pissed@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

https://theanarchistlibrary.org/library/jacques-ellul-propaganda

Here is a book on propaganda, check it out.

Edit: Also its funny that you talk about nuance, when you initially just dismissed the report saying that the KGB and CIA only produce propaganda, you clearly don't know much about intelligence agencies, meanwhile when you were presented a nuanced argument you simply replied with

I don't care

A more nuanced take might of been, I don't think the document its self is propaganda, however the person posting the document might be a propagandist. Anyways there is no reason not to believe that the leadership of the USSR weren't making decisions collectively, even if you think that Soviet Union was an authoritarian state.