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Wait FUTO bullied the main dev as well? That's a shame
I'm kind of out of the loop for everything outside of knowing about Grephene's existence. Is there a TL;DR or summary somewhere of what all happened? What was he right about?
Ah I see, thanks! It's really sad that ROM hardware support is so limited these days. I'd really love to run Graphene on S25 hardware :(
This is the BEST write up I have ever seen on the topic. Had no idea it was out there and explained a lot about the inner workings for security I wasn't expecting.
https://www.reddit.com/r/LineageOS/comments/n7yo7u/a_discussion_about_bootloader_lockingunlocking/
Minor nit: you don't need a Google account even with GPS. I have sandboxed GPS without an account and use aurora store for things I can't get via obtanium/F-droid.
I didn't want gps either but too many apps I rely on need it. Soooo took the path of least resistance in that case with a non logged in GPS on GrapheneOS. Its a shame it's tradeoffs all the time with things like this
Which was a lie. He kept using GrapheneOS for a long time after that. Even though targeted updates aren't possible he left his video up with that disinformation anyway.
He didn't have to. All he needed to do was make people think the lead developer was crazy and that the OS isn't trustworthy. His video has negatively affected GrapheneOS for sure. Still does considering comments like these...
and these.
Me being a GrapheneOS moderator doesn't change things. I'm a random person on the internet who was interested in the project and helped out in the community before joining the moderation team. All of the Rossmann stuff happened before I was a moderator.
I'm a GrapheneOS user and I am a member of the team. If I ever saw anything I had a problem with, I'd jump ship. All people I've met that are involved with the project are smart and dedicated. None of them are "lunatics".
But since my affiliation with the project makes you think this way, I feel it's only fair to point out that from where I'm standing I'm the one who's being reasonable here. You're the one who seems to have an odd, unwavering support for Rossmann or maybe an odd unwavering dislike for GrapheneOS. What are your affiliations? Why are you defending Rossmann's harassment? Why are you using such over the top charged language about our team, such as calling us lunatics?
Well, my previous statement was kinda misleading. Louis Rossman made ~2 vids about Micay being a dick to him and using autism as an excuse for his behaviour.
I just dived into that rabbit hole, heres what I could understand until now:
Theres this Business guy, who owns/Controls much of the Calyx Infrastructure.
When Copperhead, a for Profit Company tried to buy up Graphene, the Calyx Guy was (according to Graphene Mastodon team) very prominent and they tried to pressure them into buying it up
Now it backfired for Calyx as the Business guy did a
On the team, and now they have to change all the Infrastructure and Keys in order to make their workflow secure again
Louis has a Telecom Company with that dude as co-founder, apparently according to some legal document
Also, very many other OSs have a Problem with Graphene, as they want to be the next Private ROM, but they just wont put in the Time to do anything more then fork Linaege and add their own Propriatery stuff (looking at you, Iode), so they very often try to make alligations against Graphene, only to be completely wrong
Tbh, I just dont get ROMs, just because you cant beat Graphene dosent mean that everyone needs the kind of Security Graphene gives you. Just dont fuck up, no matter how hard it apparently is.
iodéOS has never made allegations against GrapheneOS. You are spreading so much conspiracy disinformation in this thread, it's crazy you haven't been called out more for it.
Yep, if it wasn't obvious before, it is now.