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It's almost as if a handbag is of less value than human life...
It's not just about those on the motorbike, anyone could be injured or killed in collisions because of high speed chases.
A car may instinctively swerve to avoid collision with one of the bikes and accidentally plough into 2 children crossing the road. Is that justified because somebody lost £200, their phone, drivers licence, a hairbrush, a packet of mints, some old receipts, and a leather handbag?
We've had more time with chases banned than not in recent times because the harms caused by chases significantly outweigh the harms done by petty criminals. Any crime that isn't petty has the full weight of the surveillance state behind it, negating the need for an immediate chase.
Do you think that crime is a one off thing or something? They'll keep doing it until someone stops them.
Do you think chasing them will stop the next one from doing the same? The funny thing about people is we reproduce! There's new ones of us springing up out of the woodwork all of the time. A constant stream of new potential criminals.
Crime is fixed by societal, political, and economic change. By thinking big picture. Not by throwing adrenaline junkie cops after adrenaline junkie thieves. Not by risking the public's safety, and incurring great expense in fuel, training, wages, insurance, and vehicular wear at the same.
People generally commit crime because of their material conditions. You don't fix a bad guy with a ~~gun~~ bike by using a good guy with a ~~gun~~ bike. You do it by preventing the need for the crime to be committed in the first place. Preventative measures instead of reactive measures. More social workers, less cops.
It's also driven by greed quite often, people wanting easy money.
You will always need law enforcement.
What causes greed in society? How do you prevent people constantly striving for "easy money"?
Could we perhaps change the current economic system which encourages mass hoarding of wealth by a small percentage of the population and desperation and crime for many others?
Something to think about.
I'm sure the UK police will get right on that.
Police Scotland at least, do take a more sociological approach to policing, yes. It's not perfect, and they're not pushing for a change in economic system, but they do push for a different approach to policing compared with most forces around the world. Allowing safe drug consumption buildings, for example. Tackling the causes rather than the symptoms of crime. Working in tandem with social services. Prevention instead of reaction.
Very clever of you! I'm proud of you for using your brain today, learning and thinking about something instead of just jumping straight to your preconceived ideas of crime and punishment in an attempt to "win" a pointless internet argument. Well done! Have a star ⭐
So, attempted murder, then?
Luckily, if there's no cops chasing them, these law-flouting crooks will obey all traffic laws, so that problem is averted.
Attempted murder implies intent to kill.
I think it would be difficult to convince any reasonable jury that evading arrest comes with an intention to kill.
Law enforcement, being far more aware of the dangers involved. Being a professional organisation whose remit includes the safety of the populace. Is well funded. Has access to years worth of internal and external studies, and the advice of public and private institutions well versed in sociology, criminology, and road traffic statistics, should, in a fair world, be held liable for any manslaughter charges that occur in such a chase, rather than the chased.
But that doesn't fit with the narrative of "grr, dickhead criminal on motorbike made me feel angry" I guess.