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[–] pound_heap@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

Yeah... Too bad that all EVs are spyware on the wheels. When car makers will be forced to stop or significantly reduce the amount of data they are collecting, I may consider buying one. Probably not going to happen in my lifetime.

[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 hour ago

Unless you plan on driving antique cars or living a short time, you are going to need to figure out how to rip out a cellular modem at some point to achieve that. There's no difference between EVs and modern ICE cars on the surveillance tech.

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 9 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Lol if you're in North America look for an older ev with 3g. The network is shut down so there's no way it can communicate as long as you don't give it your Wi-Fi password.

[–] pound_heap@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

I am. And I didn't realize that's a thing! But there is not many models... WV e-golf maybe a decent option

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

Yeah, leafs are cheap AF, if you can make due with the small range. They have passive cooling for the batteries like the egolf, but I'd be wary of an egolf since I don't know how well they're supported by 3rd parties like the leaf is.

I-miev didn't sell well, and I've seen lots of problems with them, so I'd stay away from them. bmw i3 would be the most expensive of the older, 3g options both to buy and maintain.

The other option to consider if you don't mind an even shorter electric range would be a phev like Chevy volt or Ford fusion. But your commute would need to be less than 10 miles for that to work.

[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

You can probably pull out the sim card that calls home. Plenty of guides out there too

[–] innermachine@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Chrysler products use a hub to control RF. It's a whole module that cannot be removed as it will throw the rest of the computers in the car network haywire. If u unplug it the vehicle will no longer start (ask how I know) They really don't want u to hide your location!

[–] pound_heap@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 12 hours ago

I'd think most of the modern cars use eSim, not a physical card