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What is your argument against someone who calculates that agriculture kills a lot of small animals like worms, rats, insects, birds etc? (lemmy.vg)

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And that it can result in more deaths than hunting and eating one large animal.

I admit that modern agriculture can and should be improved to be less cruel. I would still be uncomfortable with the act of killing and eating the flesh of a sentient being like me.

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[–] Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online 0 points 3 weeks ago

            
              Veganism without speciesm is wack as fuck.
Animals don't have to die to farm crops, but they have to die if you are going to eat their bodies.
You can't get milk or eggs without the commodification of animals. Both require breeding to sustain and breeding results in "unproductive" off spring. Maybe they don't "have" to be murdered, but what value do they have to a person who treats animals as objects?
Killing less animals isn't anti speciesm it's speciest utilitarianism.
I'm not discussing hypotheticals with speciests. They don't perceive non human animals as equals, therefore they are incapable of reliably accounting for how many animals they murder in their daily lives and how.