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[–] Goodeye8@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You're going to have to explain how Epic or Ubisoft benefit from shutting down Valve's gambling machine. If it's "Valve makes less money" then that's an irrelevant point because even if you shut down the gambling money Valve is still raking in cash. Valve simply goes from making an insane amount of money to making a slightly less insane amount of money. Valve losing gambling money is going to have zero impact on the PC storefront space. Valve losing the lawsuit in the article, now that could have an impact on the PC storefront space.

And you know, it's pretty sad that you instantly went to "she's corrupt" instead of even giving the smallest benefit of doubt to the possibility that she might be doing it because it's morally wrong. It's a sad because in your mind morality doesn't exist and corruption is everywhere.

[–] baines@lemmy.cafe 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

if you can’t see how hurting valve is a direct benefit to epic or ubi we're wasting my time

irrelevant point? lol that’s not at all how business works

i don’t care about the gambling money beyond the hypocrisy of it while sports betting, digital currency markets and fucking polymarket exist, and i’m claiming shadiness because epic has its hand up multiple ags asses in multiple markets, just take a look at apple or google stores as well as valve, epic is funding this politic to its own benefit because it failed so fucking hard competing the real way and the ags see it as an easy target since coalitions cost money

if she actually gave a damn about gambling we’d be seeing her go after sports betting first by sheer volume, draft kings is fucking disgusting

steam is actually doing some positive things for consumers and it’s asinine to start with valve

if you think morality is involved in the american legal system you live a charmed life

[–] Goodeye8@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

if you can’t see how hurting valve is a direct benefit to epic or ubi we’re wasting my time

irrelevant point? lol that’s not at all how business works

Did you even read what I said? Valve losing it's gambling money is going to have no impact on their market share in the PC storefront market space because Valve is already making boatloads of money even without the gambling money. Valve doesn't need to do anything to make up for the loss because they don't need to be greedy. They can eat "the loss" and continue business as usual which means there is no direct benefit for any competing storefront. If anything it might end up being a net negative because (while it probably won't directly impact Epic or Ubisoft) some big studios still use lootboxes and this ruling would further push getting them banned. There's an indirect benefit to Epic of Ubisoft in the form of Valve making less money but when you make insane amounts of money making slightly less insane amounts of money isn't anything Epic of Ubisoft will feel. So yeah, I'd like to see you explain how the gambling lawsuit would directly benefit Epic of Ubisoft.

if she actually gave a damn about gambling we’d be seeing her go after sports betting first by sheer volume

So she shouldn't go after Valve where there's a legitimate case to be made? Because she should be going after some other nondescript entity that she may not even have a case against? Yeah, makes total sense.

if you think morality is involved in the american legal system you live a charmed life

So according to you SKG movement isn't driven by the moral point that we should own the things we buy? So who is funding that initiative? Who gains to benefit from it? Come on, give me the juice. Let me suckle on that conspiracy teat. It's all conspiracies, no good guys ever exists. Ross Scott is a paid actor.

[–] baines@lemmy.cafe 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

lol you restating your position doesn't suddenly make it true

just because you have no idea how fortune 500s work isn't my concern

if she cares about valve while draft kings, polymarket, tcgs, roblox, and digital coins exist she’s a joke and this is from someone who thinks gambling is a cancer

roblox is literal gacha for preteens in a cesspool with pedos

and she doesn't have a case for valve either lol, this shits going nowhere, this whole ‘think of the kids bullshit’ for a game rated M and a site requiring you be > 13 is just more fud for a real id

it’s not conspiracy to literally google epic using states to sue competition: google apple valve have been targeted for anticompetitive practices

epic games anti trust + state coalitions all while epic has historically come under fire for also being anticompetitive pure lol

and for the gambling charges google all the states + federal governments (eu as well) pushing for online ids for various ‘think if the children’ reasons

[–] Goodeye8@piefed.social 0 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Okay, so your arguments are "I pull random shit I won't explain out of my ass" and "CONSPIRACY". Alrighty, bye. Don't let the chem trails throw you off the edge of the flat earth.

[–] baines@lemmy.cafe 1 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

spend 2 minutes yourself or don’t, i don’t really care

here’s a entire reddit thread on it you lazy fuck

https://www.reddit.com/r/Games/comments/1rqz5i4/steam_support_about_the_new_york_attorney_general/

“In addition, although this case is about illegal gambling, it is important to note that Valve’s promotion of games that glorify violence and guns helps fuel the dangerous epidemic of gun violence, particularly among young gamers who can become numbed to grave violence before their brains are fully developed."

look at this shit, complete fucking fud

https://www.aclum.org/publications/ai-powered-surveillance-is-turning-the-united-states-into-a-digital-police-state-now-is-the-time-to-stop-it/

this from the aclu

https://www.openrightsgroup.org/press-releases/roblox-reddit-and-discord-users-compelled-to-use-biometric-id-system-backed-by-palantir-co-founder-peter-thiel/

but go ahead and tell me you think the aclu is big on conspiracy theories