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I’d like to think everyone gets the worst of all worlds. Data centers get the water and cause mass migration. The rich fail to manifest Skynet and go broke, then spur on a civil war in a fight amongst each other for fiefdoms.
The US is showing a lot of the classic symptoms of approaching civilization collapse, from unmitigated climate change to polarization of wealth and power at the top, to the open, extreme corruption of government officials.
All the horsemen of the apocalypse are getting ready to ride.
But in the aftermath, we'll learn all the ways that the empire stabilized the rest of the world, and conflicts between local warlords will break out across the world like hives.
Absolutely not. The US creates war through coups, military intervention, and puppet states.
Left to their own devices, many states would have socialist governments that focus on their quality of life, whereas the empire is purely extractive.
Currently the US is going after several Latin American governments. These states would be better off without US interference. This is just a fact.
I didn't say other nations wouldn't be better off without US interference. The US has caused a lot of problems and overthrown plenty of governments, sometimes for no greater crime than being an ideological threat by its presence, or refusing to let capitalist interests exploit their resources.
But the US is responsible for a lot of stability in the world. This is one of the reasons the dissolution of USAID has been so disastrous. It was a vector by which the US did good and created stability.
And yes, the fall of the US would mean that some military adventurism from the US would not happen, allowing some societies to develop in peace...but at the same time, other societies looking to expand violently will also be emboldened. It will be chaotic and unpredictable.