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[–] TimothyOilypants@lemmy.ca 0 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

The Alberta separatism thing has influenced my opinion on the Xinjiang Uyghur situation. Providing a decent standard of living for >1,400,000,000 is a big undertaking, no one in human history has come even close. Absolute individual liberty sounds good on the surface, but at what cost?

If you have a small, but very disruptive minority of your population who have made it clear that they would rather tear your country apart than integrate into your established social fabric and norms, what do you do? Isolation and re-education seems like a reasonable, and humane option. Extermination or expulsion would be much easier solutions; investing the time and resources to improve material conditions while also giving people the opportunity to be rehabilitated seems like a preferable alternative.

I see a lot of people very critical of China's Sinicization campaign; but at the same time I also see growing instability in most other culturally diverse nations. Ideological extremism is on the rise, anti-immigration sentiment plagues many other developed nations, and I have yet to see systems or proposed solutions which I think can scale to the extent required for a population of 50,000,000... Let alone billions.

[–] Yliaster@lemmy.world 0 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Did you just... justify genocide on the grounds of "disruption"?

What's described as "re-education" is essentially ethnic cleansing. This is disgusting. It's not "rehab", it's inhumane mistreatment

These are right-wing nationalist/conservative talking points.

[–] TimothyOilypants@lemmy.ca 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

That's certainly a bombastic and alarmist strawman.

I have seen a great deal of propaganda, but I have seen no compelling evidence of genocide. Quite the contrary, China has actually been very transparent about Xinjiang, and MANY people from the west have visited the region and provided extensive documentary evidence which contradicts the narrative

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

[–] Yliaster@lemmy.world -1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Go back to your den genocide-denying Chinese bot.

[–] TimothyOilypants@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 hours ago

If you're not interested in a good faith discussion that's fine, you can just say that like an adult.

I wish I could live in your black and white world, but unfortunately I've seen enough of the real one to understand that things are rarely as simple as internet trolls think they should be...

Have a good one.