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"Trusted" eMail Providers? (lemmy.zip)

submitted 3 days ago by nefarioushoneybee@lemmy.zip to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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I switched from Gmail to Proton, but now with everything coming out about Proton I'm switching from them too. I started using Posteo which I like but a lot of my accounts having to do with money and finance (including my bank) aren't accepting the Posteo email. They have rejected it over and over and even locked me out stating that I was hacked.

Do you guys have any recommendations for email providers to use that also won't send red flags to my more official accounts?

If it helps, I'm US-based.

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[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

They market on privacy and fail to deliver as I keep pointing out.

You haven’t pointed out a single way they’ve failed to deliver. They deliver on all of their marketing promises, and I have yet to see any proof to the contrary. You saying they failed over and over again is not proof.

"We do not retain full credit card details, we only save your name and the last 4 digits of the credit card number. " -Proton

So Proton is keeping only the bare minimum amount of information necessary? Sounds like something a company keen on privacy would do lol.

I am not a fan of any corporation, but to illustrate a point Mullvad VPN does not store this information on their servers at all.

Mullvad is a VPN service, they don’t provide private email services like Proton. Mullvad doesn’t need to keep any metadata because you’re not paying them to maintain or store your data. It is a transit system for your data, not a destination. You’re comparing apples and oranges.

The actual comparison you’d have to make is with other private email providers like Tutanota or Fastmail, both of which store the same payment metadata as ProtonMail, because they have to.

If you are going to pay for privacy, you should expect excellence. Not exactly what state law allows.

When I pay for privacy, I expect to receive privacy, and preferably the most privacy, and that’s what ProtonMail delivers quite successfully. Moreso than its competitors in fact, because I also understand that paying for a commercial service means that service is subject to the laws where the service resides, and Tutanota is in Germany, and Fastmail is in Australia/US.

Have you found any proof for your claims yet? You’ve had plenty of time now. If you can’t provide anything with your next comment I’ll be forced to determine that you just don’t have any, and that your only aim was to spread misinformation from the start.